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Get rich. The average or even moderately wealthy probably won't have any chance at access to these technologies if they come to fruition. You'll also need a lot

by t-3 4y ago

Get rich. The average or even moderately wealthy probably won't have any chance at access to these technologies if they come to fruition. You'll also need a lot of extra wealth to keep yourself from an extra-long dotage in poverty. For myself, I plan to die before I hit 60. I'm not going to spend decades in pain and misery for no reason, life already sucks without my body falling apart. Kevorkian diet all the way!

altdataseller 4y ago
What happens if you are still alive at the age of 60?
- t-3 4y ago
  If I'm not in pain, I don't care. If I live in pain, I'll get myself some painkillers and take them all probably.
qgin 4y ago
No other medical treatments work this way. Private insurance and socialized healthcare systems will jump at the chance to prevent their members from becoming afflicted with the extremely predictable and expensive diseases of aging (Alzheimers, cancer, heart disease…) People say “if it ever comes it will only be for the super rich” because they are afraid to let themselves experience the emotion of wanting something that might not be possible.
hasbot 4y ago
I've known several active people in their mid-70s. If you're generally healthy and active you should be okay until 70.
otikik 4y ago
You will have stopped existing way before your body reaches 60. What I mean by this is that current-you and 60-year-old you will be so different from each other that they could be different individuals entirely. You will likely still share some atoms by mere chance, but most of your 60yo body will be made of different atoms. 60yo’s mind will have many memories and experiences in common with you, but also a bunch of different ones. And their circumstances will also be different. Think about 10-year-old you. Did they have plans for current-you? Have you fulfilled those plans?
- t-3 4y ago
  > Think about 10-year-old you. Did they have plans for current-you? No.
- more_corn 4y ago
  I’ve had a surprisingly consistent sense of self. At least as far as I can remember. My personality, sense of fairness, hopes dreams, interests. All consistent. I’ll certainly be the same person at 60. Hopefully wiser and handsomer.
  - otikik 4y ago
    Leaving aside the fact that you are using your brain to evaluate its own consistency, how can you know that yours is “surprising”? I think most people do feel a strong sense of self, and that they feel it is extremely consistent. I am having trouble picturing some who isn’t like that in my head, actually. Perhaps someone who’s barely conscious, or a baby. I also think that despite that feeling, change is unavoidable for everyone and uncomfortable for a lot of us. Some will go to extremes like changing their own memories in order to avoid admitting that they changed.
kbelder 4y ago
With a little bit of care, your physical and mental health can be excellent well past 60, believe it or not. Not every day is a misery for many 70-year-olds. But, on the other hand, if you think your life sucks before you're 60, you'll probably think it sucks after you're 60. It's probably more about personality than physical health.

by t-3 4y ago

altdataseller 4y ago

What happens if you are still alive at the age of 60?

t-3 4y ago
If I'm not in pain, I don't care. If I live in pain, I'll get myself some painkillers and take them all probably.

qgin 4y ago

No other medical treatments work this way. Private insurance and socialized healthcare systems will jump at the chance to prevent their members from becoming afflicted with the extremely predictable and expensive diseases of aging (Alzheimers, cancer, heart disease…) People say “if it ever comes it will only be for the super rich” because they are afraid to let themselves experience the emotion of wanting something that might not be possible.

hasbot 4y ago

I've known several active people in their mid-70s. If you're generally healthy and active you should be okay until 70.

otikik 4y ago

You will have stopped existing way before your body reaches 60. What I mean by this is that current-you and 60-year-old you will be so different from each other that they could be different individuals entirely. You will likely still share some atoms by mere chance, but most of your 60yo body will be made of different atoms. 60yo’s mind will have many memories and experiences in common with you, but also a bunch of different ones. And their circumstances will also be different. Think about 10-year-old you. Did they have plans for current-you? Have you fulfilled those plans?

t-3 4y ago
> Think about 10-year-old you. Did they have plans for current-you? No.
more_corn 4y ago
I’ve had a surprisingly consistent sense of self. At least as far as I can remember. My personality, sense of fairness, hopes dreams, interests. All consistent. I’ll certainly be the same person at 60. Hopefully wiser and handsomer.
- otikik 4y ago
  Leaving aside the fact that you are using your brain to evaluate its own consistency, how can you know that yours is “surprising”? I think most people do feel a strong sense of self, and that they feel it is extremely consistent. I am having trouble picturing some who isn’t like that in my head, actually. Perhaps someone who’s barely conscious, or a baby. I also think that despite that feeling, change is unavoidable for everyone and uncomfortable for a lot of us. Some will go to extremes like changing their own memories in order to avoid admitting that they changed.

kbelder 4y ago

With a little bit of care, your physical and mental health can be excellent well past 60, believe it or not. Not every day is a misery for many 70-year-olds. But, on the other hand, if you think your life sucks before you're 60, you'll probably think it sucks after you're 60. It's probably more about personality than physical health.