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Tesla is on rocky footing, imo. I own a Tesla, and have for 8 years, but I'm not convinced I'd buy another. They build low quality cars that have high range an

Tesla is on rocky footing, imo. I own a Tesla, and have for 8 years, but I'm not convinced I'd buy another. They build low quality cars that have high range and a pretty good charging network. They have a self driving program that's basically going to kill people constantly. Elon Musk is increasingly unhinged and unpredictable. They were so close to being an amazing company. They nailed the direct to consumer sales piece, and the long range EV piece. But culturally, it sounds like they are a nightmare to work for, and they are rapidly losing the lead they built themselves. I don't want them to fail, I think there is still potential there, but watching Elon absolutely lose his mind that this is some sort of conspiracy makes it really hard for me to want them to succeed.

bhouston 4y ago
And Elon Musk continually finds reasons to sell Tesla stock - most recently $10B that was going to be for buying Twitter, but maybe that now won't happen. It is quite likely that he will not put that money back into Tesla if Twitter acquisition doesn't happen.
horns4lyfe 4y ago
I drove a Tesla plaid model S recently, and I’d hardly call that a “low-quality” car, unless you’re very out of touch.
- impulser_ 4y ago
  He's said build quality. Which is true. Ask anyone who works at a Tesla service shop. Panels are often misaligned. Leaks appear in the trunk spaces during rain. Software is often buggy leading to be unable to use A/C or other basic features. The list goes on. These aren't small quantities of cars almost all of them have to be serviced within a year unless the owner doesn't care.
  - turtledove 4y ago
    Not he, they. But yes, exactly. The cars feel amazing in demos, but given time in them... It's a whole different story.
- turtledove 4y ago
  My car has had constant build quality issues. Yes, a demo drive is nice, but then you live with one. We had to have our windshield replaced immediately because it didn't seal, then the automatic wipers stopped working. The door handles have been replaced at least four times. I've been locked in and out of the car because the handles wouldn't work. The software is full of memory leaks and crashes three dashboard and center console to black while driving. The threads and materials inside were pelt trimmed and didn't fit neatly. The front axle has needed to have shims replaced because turning the steering wheel was making loud popping noises... twice. I've had superchargers not work, leaving me stranded. I've been sent two recall notices (for different issues) that said, "sit tight, we'll contact you when parts arrive" but then they never contacted me. When I called to inquire, they said they'd have to charge me for a service visit, and it would be $200, and maybe I just didn't want to fix the issue? I've had other recalls that did get fixed, at least. My experience is hardly unique. The car is shoddily put together. And every service tech I've chatted with has said, "Full disclosure? They are running too lean in the factory, so some units just don't get finished right." And that's to say nothing about the other issues people experience, like autopilot making bad decisions, or Tesla shipping their cars with demo chips, or dangerously bad welding.

bhouston 4y ago

And Elon Musk continually finds reasons to sell Tesla stock - most recently $10B that was going to be for buying Twitter, but maybe that now won't happen. It is quite likely that he will not put that money back into Tesla if Twitter acquisition doesn't happen.

horns4lyfe 4y ago

I drove a Tesla plaid model S recently, and I’d hardly call that a “low-quality” car, unless you’re very out of touch.

impulser_ 4y ago
He's said build quality. Which is true. Ask anyone who works at a Tesla service shop. Panels are often misaligned. Leaks appear in the trunk spaces during rain. Software is often buggy leading to be unable to use A/C or other basic features. The list goes on. These aren't small quantities of cars almost all of them have to be serviced within a year unless the owner doesn't care.
- turtledove 4y ago
  Not he, they. But yes, exactly. The cars feel amazing in demos, but given time in them... It's a whole different story.
turtledove 4y ago
My car has had constant build quality issues. Yes, a demo drive is nice, but then you live with one. We had to have our windshield replaced immediately because it didn't seal, then the automatic wipers stopped working. The door handles have been replaced at least four times. I've been locked in and out of the car because the handles wouldn't work. The software is full of memory leaks and crashes three dashboard and center console to black while driving. The threads and materials inside were pelt trimmed and didn't fit neatly. The front axle has needed to have shims replaced because turning the steering wheel was making loud popping noises... twice. I've had superchargers not work, leaving me stranded. I've been sent two recall notices (for different issues) that said, "sit tight, we'll contact you when parts arrive" but then they never contacted me. When I called to inquire, they said they'd have to charge me for a service visit, and it would be $200, and maybe I just didn't want to fix the issue? I've had other recalls that did get fixed, at least. My experience is hardly unique. The car is shoddily put together. And every service tech I've chatted with has said, "Full disclosure? They are running too lean in the factory, so some units just don't get finished right." And that's to say nothing about the other issues people experience, like autopilot making bad decisions, or Tesla shipping their cars with demo chips, or dangerously bad welding.