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> you shouldn't expect a search engine to make judgements on your behalf This is true but it Google still tries to despite the fact that they can't. If Google

by xmprt 4y ago

> you shouldn't expect a search engine to make judgements on your behalf This is true but it Google still tries to despite the fact that they can't. If Google returned completely unbiased results and let the reader filter the results then I think people would have fewer results.

ninkendo 4y ago
What's wrong with fewer results? I don't want thousands or millions of results for my query, give me 10 good ones. I'd imagine most people are similar here.
- xmprt 4y ago
  I misspoke. I meant people would have fewer *issues. However fewer results would also happen and I agree that it's a good thing (if you reread my original comment, you'll notice that I didn't make any value judgement on whether fewer results was good or bad).
rchaud 4y ago
If you want unbiased results, you are looking for a directory like the Yellow Pages, not a search engine. And then when you need to search inside the Yellow Pages, you'll ask yourself why YP doesn't do something about the misleading descriptions provided by the companies in their index.
kordlessagain 4y ago
If a search engine is full of documents curated directly by the user, through commands to save and index such and such site and this and that document, then a language model is well capable of making judgments on the user's behalf based on their interests. Further, conversations about such documents over time may give priming that narrows the judgments down to what the user approves of the AI's judgments and what they don't. Just speaking from my experience in thinking and working on this concept over the last 2 years...I could be wrong, but testing shows some hope in this idea being a reality. The document set is the critical part here. The user must obtain the documents that are of interest to them. Keeping the document set small and focused allows for higher quality results and discussions about the content.
Barrin92 4y ago
what is an unbiased result in context of a search engine? Google has to decide what to put on page number 1 and what on number 10. This necessarily requires making judgements based on criteria any of which will be considered biased by someone. (which they are, because judging what is most relevant is the point of a search engine to begin with).

by xmprt 4y ago

ninkendo 4y ago

What's wrong with fewer results? I don't want thousands or millions of results for my query, give me 10 good ones. I'd imagine most people are similar here.

xmprt 4y ago
I misspoke. I meant people would have fewer *issues. However fewer results would also happen and I agree that it's a good thing (if you reread my original comment, you'll notice that I didn't make any value judgement on whether fewer results was good or bad).

rchaud 4y ago

If you want unbiased results, you are looking for a directory like the Yellow Pages, not a search engine. And then when you need to search inside the Yellow Pages, you'll ask yourself why YP doesn't do something about the misleading descriptions provided by the companies in their index.

kordlessagain 4y ago

If a search engine is full of documents curated directly by the user, through commands to save and index such and such site and this and that document, then a language model is well capable of making judgments on the user's behalf based on their interests. Further, conversations about such documents over time may give priming that narrows the judgments down to what the user approves of the AI's judgments and what they don't. Just speaking from my experience in thinking and working on this concept over the last 2 years...I could be wrong, but testing shows some hope in this idea being a reality. The document set is the critical part here. The user must obtain the documents that are of interest to them. Keeping the document set small and focused allows for higher quality results and discussions about the content.

Barrin92 4y ago

what is an unbiased result in context of a search engine? Google has to decide what to put on page number 1 and what on number 10. This necessarily requires making judgements based on criteria any of which will be considered biased by someone. (which they are, because judging what is most relevant is the point of a search engine to begin with).