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'c' is dependent on the medium. The value of c as it is commonly known, 300 million meters per second, is in vacuum. Light traveling through other media is affe

'c' is dependent on the medium. The value of c as it is commonly known, 300 million meters per second, is in vacuum. Light traveling through other media is affected by its index of refraction, in the case of silica fiber, that is approximately 1.5 so radiation propagates much slower through silica than it does a vacuum. Since gases have low refractive indicies already, within a hundred ppm or so of a vacuum, you could essentially round air to 1.

ortusdux 4y ago
I've heard that high frequency traders are interested in Starlink's planned laser links because they could open up routes that are faster than traditional terrestrial fiber.
- guipsp 4y ago
  I think that if you are a HFT, you probably have a server set up next door.
  - samwillis 4y ago
    The suggestion is about trading across multiple exchanges, for example between London and NY. Going via Starlink is potentially quicker than a fiber under the Atlantic. They will have servers “next door” to the exchanges, but need the servers to have incredible low latency connections to each other.
- theideaofcoffee 4y ago
  Yeah, that would make sense. There are links that have been built by various HFT firms and banks [0] [1] that use microwaves instead of fiber buried in the ground simply because of this speed-of-light-in-media limitation. They can shave a few hundred nanoseconds (or something, I don't want to do the math right now) because of a higher signal propagation speed and get a trade in faster than their competitors. Same thing with a laser link like this. Edit: cf. [0] https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/11/private-microwave-networks-financial-hft/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/11/priva... [1] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-highfrequency-microwave/lasers-microwave-deployed-in-high-speed-trading-arms-race-idUSBRE9400L920130501 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-highfrequency-microwave/l...
- cycomanic 4y ago
  I know the main people behind much of the hollow core work being done. Much of their financing is coming from HFT related firms.

ortusdux 4y ago

I've heard that high frequency traders are interested in Starlink's planned laser links because they could open up routes that are faster than traditional terrestrial fiber.

guipsp 4y ago
I think that if you are a HFT, you probably have a server set up next door.
- samwillis 4y ago
  The suggestion is about trading across multiple exchanges, for example between London and NY. Going via Starlink is potentially quicker than a fiber under the Atlantic. They will have servers “next door” to the exchanges, but need the servers to have incredible low latency connections to each other.
theideaofcoffee 4y ago
Yeah, that would make sense. There are links that have been built by various HFT firms and banks [0] [1] that use microwaves instead of fiber buried in the ground simply because of this speed-of-light-in-media limitation. They can shave a few hundred nanoseconds (or something, I don't want to do the math right now) because of a higher signal propagation speed and get a trade in faster than their competitors. Same thing with a laser link like this. Edit: cf. [0] https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/11/private-microwave-networks-financial-hft/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/11/priva... [1] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-highfrequency-microwave/lasers-microwave-deployed-in-high-speed-trading-arms-race-idUSBRE9400L920130501 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-highfrequency-microwave/l...
cycomanic 4y ago
I know the main people behind much of the hollow core work being done. Much of their financing is coming from HFT related firms.