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I'm a front end developer for 15 years, same age as you. I'm looking to leave the industry, so I kind of agree with the author. It's a matter of perspective I g

I'm a front end developer for 15 years, same age as you. I'm looking to leave the industry, so I kind of agree with the author. It's a matter of perspective I guess. I just feel this field has become incredibly over saturated and it's now a race to the bottom.

scsilver 4y ago
Which field hasn’t in your opinion?
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago
  Medicine. There's never gonna be a short supply of old and sick people needing care. Doctors enjoy a job stability second to none.
  - bumby 4y ago
    Isn't the trend in the industry to rely more heavily on nurse practitioners and physician assistants instead of MDs as primary care providers? I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, but from one perspective it seems to put downward pressure on the salary of primary care providers.
  - passingmagic 4y ago
    The "shortage" of medical professionals - esp. doctors - I believe is a manufactured one. The medical associations and societies that control approvals operate in a manner similar to OPEC. They keep supply down to keep prices high. This is almost a scam, given the lengthy wait times for doc appointments in many urban areas.
  - bumby 4y ago
    According to Dept. of Labor ONET data, doctors are expected to have slower than average job growth.[1][2][3][4] In some areas of healthcare employment, growth will be higher than average [5][6], but doctors don't seem to be one of them. [1]https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/29-1215.00 https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/29-1215.00 [2]https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/29-1229.00 https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/29-1229.00 [3]https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/29-1224.00 https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/29-1224.00 [4]https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/29-1213.00 https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/29-1213.00 [5]https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/29-1071.00 https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/29-1071.00 [6]https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/29-1171.00 https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/29-1171.00
askonomm 4y ago
I felt the same way, but then I learnt a niche programming language (Clojure), and get to do front-end work for double the salary, with far less competition, and I quite enjoy programming again. Not saying it will work for you, but worth a thought!
soneca 4y ago
I am not sure what the metric of “bottom” you are using, but I am earning 14x the salary of my first job as a junior developer in 2017. About 6x the salary of the job I had before changing careers (I took a pay cut when I started as a junior). Definitely a race up for me.
- 5350-uiop-1130 4y ago
  But you mentioned you work for American startup, presumably they are outsourcing? Guessing the salary is not the same as they would pay in mainland US (could be wrong). the role of front end developer has become incredibly commoditised. I currently work for faang and I gave up applying for jobs because nobody replies. I just wait for recruiters to contact me.

scsilver 4y ago

Which field hasn’t in your opinion?

ChuckNorris89 4y ago
Medicine. There's never gonna be a short supply of old and sick people needing care. Doctors enjoy a job stability second to none.
- bumby 4y ago
  Isn't the trend in the industry to rely more heavily on nurse practitioners and physician assistants instead of MDs as primary care providers? I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, but from one perspective it seems to put downward pressure on the salary of primary care providers.
- passingmagic 4y ago
  The "shortage" of medical professionals - esp. doctors - I believe is a manufactured one. The medical associations and societies that control approvals operate in a manner similar to OPEC. They keep supply down to keep prices high. This is almost a scam, given the lengthy wait times for doc appointments in many urban areas.
- bumby 4y ago
  According to Dept. of Labor ONET data, doctors are expected to have slower than average job growth.[1][2][3][4] In some areas of healthcare employment, growth will be higher than average [5][6], but doctors don't seem to be one of them. [1]https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/29-1215.00 https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/29-1215.00 [2]https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/29-1229.00 https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/29-1229.00 [3]https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/29-1224.00 https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/29-1224.00 [4]https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/29-1213.00 https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/29-1213.00 [5]https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/29-1071.00 https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/29-1071.00 [6]https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/29-1171.00 https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/29-1171.00

askonomm 4y ago

I felt the same way, but then I learnt a niche programming language (Clojure), and get to do front-end work for double the salary, with far less competition, and I quite enjoy programming again. Not saying it will work for you, but worth a thought!

soneca 4y ago

I am not sure what the metric of “bottom” you are using, but I am earning 14x the salary of my first job as a junior developer in 2017. About 6x the salary of the job I had before changing careers (I took a pay cut when I started as a junior). Definitely a race up for me.

5350-uiop-1130 4y ago
But you mentioned you work for American startup, presumably they are outsourcing? Guessing the salary is not the same as they would pay in mainland US (could be wrong). the role of front end developer has become incredibly commoditised. I currently work for faang and I gave up applying for jobs because nobody replies. I just wait for recruiters to contact me.