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Generative art using C++ printer commands and a receipt printer
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- DeathArrow 4y agoGenerative something. Not sure about the art part. Art is beautiful, timeless and has something to say.
- creativenolo 4y agoDuchamp’s Urinal pops to mind. It had something to say, at least about your point of view.
- DeathArrow 4y agoThat tells a lot about your mind.
- uoaei 4y agoThat comment says volumes about yours.
- seabird 4y agoI think art like Urinal is dumb, but I wouldn't say it's not art. Trying to define "real art" is a fools' errand. It's "I know it when I see it" that doesn't achieve anything. There's plenty of art that isn't beautiful or timeless that pretty much nobody other than a contrarian would claim isn't art. Having nothing to say is saying something. The only thing that even comes close to defining art is somebody presenting the artwork as such, and you can probably find plenty of counterexamples to that. Avoiding saying that some piece of art lacks value/impact by claiming it's not art is a lazy way people try to avoid others pointing out that their assessment of that art's value/impact may be wrong, and that their gripes with the work are pretty much purely subjective.
- hnlmorg 4y agoI’d argue all 3 criteria have been met (though, to be clear, I also don’t agree with your definition either): - beauty is in the eye of the beholder - this has been enshrined both in paper and digitally on the internet. That’s far more resilient than most peoples personal backups. - and it’s generated discourse. From you in fact.
- can16358p 4y agoFor me it is beautiful. For you it might not be. That's why art is subjective.
- scyclow 4y agoThat's a needlessly rigid, and depressingly simple definition. Art is just the thing that people refer to when they use the word "art".
- junon 4y ago... according to your own subjective tastes...
- JKCalhoun 4y agoFine art, commercial art, pop art ... the concept of art can take on many guises. I suppose the history of art has been nothing if not people asking what can be called art — your comment contributes to that ongoing dialog. To you I would suggest maybe there is "hard" art and "soft" art (the latter allowing for architecture, design, etc.). This one is on the softer side.
- mdh 4y agoIMO, art may have those characteristics - good art will often obviously have >1 of those. Art in its most basic form is anything that engages you beyond a strictly functional level.
- beanders 4y agoHmm, I’m pretty sure the most general definition of art is exactly the opposite: subjective, immediate, and representing a private communication between the artist and their context/environment. If anyone external to that communication gets some value from it as well, that’s a nice side benefit!
- Agingcoder 4y agoI don't know about the immediate part. Some works of art I saw didn't trigger anything, until I realized the next day that I kept thinking about them (films or contemporary art usually). It also seems like these specific works tend to have had a more profound effect on me than the immediate ones. In the end, they maybe triggered some kind of immediate subconscious reaction, but the actual communication was delayed. Still, I like your definition very much.
- michaelbrave 4y agoGotta disagree on the beatuful and timeless parts of the definion. Lots of art is ugly, or makes us face our own ugliness, and I would argue the best art causes some kind of emotional reaction be it calmness, peace, rage or disgust, often that looks messy and not beautiful. As for timeless, most art exists as a critique of something, so it exists within the context and time that it was created. As the world changes some critiques are no longer relevant (if I made a piece decrying the ottoman empire, it may have been influential a long time ago, likely wouldn't matter today). I think the difference between an Artist and a Craftsman is similar to the difference between a Scientist and an Engineer. Artist/Scientists are expiramental and pushing boundaries, Craftsman/Engineers use tried and true solutions to make something better in a repeatable way. Liking a piece because of technical talent is closer to craftsmanship than art. Ironically the more timeless and beautiful it is the less likely it is to have something to say.
- TheDesolate0 4y ago
- ericbarrett 4y agoI'd recommend gloves to anybody who's going to handle thermal paper receipts more than casually: https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/health/turning-heat-thermal-paper-receipts https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/health/turning-heat-therma...
- curiousgal 4y agoOP seems to have used phenol-free paper. https://twitter.com/flockaroo/status/1527603279907127296 https://twitter.com/flockaroo/status/1527603279907127296
- b3morales 4y agoLooks nice, but is there more to this than the one shaky video of the printer?
- DanBC 4y agoNot yet, I don't think. His website has some interesting bits: https://www.flockaroo.at/ https://www.flockaroo.at/ Sometimes I post stuff to HN because I'm interested in how people here react to it - sometimes they've done something similar, sometimes they'll wonder how it's done and come up with a rough outline of an approach that's worth looking at.
- b3morales 4y agoThanks!
- astroalex 4y agoI'm a huge fan of this. There's something magical about receipt printers. I love the idea that there is a long, infinite canvas which can flow from the printer. And part of the allure is the clunky slowness of the printer and the rough analog quality of the print. That rendering of the mountains works very well for the medium! Sorry for the self promo, this is just too relevant not to share: I created a generative art piece using receipt printers in which the printers "print themselves to death" over a tub of water. Video here: https://vimeo.com/336939272 https://vimeo.com/336939272
- thih9 4y ago> Video is not rated. Log in to watch. I don't have a vimeo account; is there a mirror on a site that doesn't require an account?
- jerpint 4y ago"existence is pain!" That printer, probably
- dementik 4y ago> the clunky slowness of the printer I understand what you mean, but e.g. Toshiba TCx thermal receipt printer (6145-1TN) prints 406mm/sec (125 lps at 8lpi). I think that is very very fast.
- astroalex 4y agoWow, good point! I suppose the thermal printers that I've hacked around with are probably very dated in comparison.
- Tao332 4y agoHe'd better stop that thing, it's almost as big as a CVS receipt.
- pengaru 4y agoFor when you weren't satisfied only wasting electricity with your graphics hacks...
- sva_ 4y agoReminds me of Jackson Pollock.
- bowsamic 4y agoThis is gonna get a hell of a lot of pushback from the HN crowd