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If you watch the video, he talks about ending free speech, while throwing "special needs" insults. "woke aspergers hater" was an oxymoron.

lapcat 4y ago
> "woke aspergers hater" was an oxymoron. Ok, fine, but Twitter doesn't describe itself as "woke", so it doesn't seem like your comment was as rhetorically effective as you may have thought it was. Nowadays the term "woke" is almost exclusively used as an insult and not as a self-description; it actually has the feel of self-identifying the user of a term as having a particular sociopolitical leaning.
- EricE 4y ago
  And calling anyone with the temerity to disagree with you an -ist or -phobe isn't self identification of the users who overuse those terms as having a particular sociopolitical leaning? Or does the gate only ever swing one way in your universe?
  - lapcat 4y ago
    It appears you have an axe to grind or score to settle here, but I'm not clear on what the point is supposed to be. I think we're in agreement that "woke aspergers hater" is an oxymoron. I'm guessing that the OP believed their comment was an effective use of sarcasm, whereas I found the comment to be confusing and ineffective. We can agree to disagree about that. Other than that, I have no wish to argue over who has the right to call whom which names.
- pipeline_peak 4y ago
  > so it doesn't seem like your comment was as rhetorically effective as you may have thought it was To you, sure, I agree > Nowadays the term "woke" is almost exclusively used as an insult and not as a self-description Almost exclusively, really? > it actually has the feel of self-identifying the user of a term as having a particular sociopolitical leaning. Why is that such a concern to you?
  - lapcat 4y ago
    > Almost exclusively, really? Don't take it from me, take it from Wikipedia. ;-) "By 2021, woke had become used almost exclusively as a pejorative, with most prominent usages of the word taking place in a disparaging context." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke#Woke_as_a_pejorative_term https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke#Woke_as_a_pejorative_term > Why is that such a concern to you? I wouldn't say it's a concern. It's an observation.
    - pipeline_peak 4y ago
      The wiki quote you replied with references the well known left leaning New York Times. I don't see any data that proves your point that woke is almost exclusively an insult. An observation is merely to collect information, you went out of your way to bring it up. I'm just curious as to what your motive is.
      - lapcat 4y ago
        I remember when the NYT propagandized for the Iraq invasion. Anyway, I have no aspiration to prove this point, you can believe whatever you want to believe. But at least believe that my impression is not unique in this respect. We all, everyone here in the HN comments, went out of our way to write comments and replies on the internets. It's actually not that hard to type stuff. At the moment, I've got too much free time on my hands.
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lapcat 4y ago

> "woke aspergers hater" was an oxymoron. Ok, fine, but Twitter doesn't describe itself as "woke", so it doesn't seem like your comment was as rhetorically effective as you may have thought it was. Nowadays the term "woke" is almost exclusively used as an insult and not as a self-description; it actually has the feel of self-identifying the user of a term as having a particular sociopolitical leaning.

EricE 4y ago
And calling anyone with the temerity to disagree with you an -ist or -phobe isn't self identification of the users who overuse those terms as having a particular sociopolitical leaning? Or does the gate only ever swing one way in your universe?
- lapcat 4y ago
  It appears you have an axe to grind or score to settle here, but I'm not clear on what the point is supposed to be. I think we're in agreement that "woke aspergers hater" is an oxymoron. I'm guessing that the OP believed their comment was an effective use of sarcasm, whereas I found the comment to be confusing and ineffective. We can agree to disagree about that. Other than that, I have no wish to argue over who has the right to call whom which names.
pipeline_peak 4y ago
> so it doesn't seem like your comment was as rhetorically effective as you may have thought it was To you, sure, I agree > Nowadays the term "woke" is almost exclusively used as an insult and not as a self-description Almost exclusively, really? > it actually has the feel of self-identifying the user of a term as having a particular sociopolitical leaning. Why is that such a concern to you?
- lapcat 4y ago
  > Almost exclusively, really? Don't take it from me, take it from Wikipedia. ;-) "By 2021, woke had become used almost exclusively as a pejorative, with most prominent usages of the word taking place in a disparaging context." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke#Woke_as_a_pejorative_term https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke#Woke_as_a_pejorative_term > Why is that such a concern to you? I wouldn't say it's a concern. It's an observation.
  - pipeline_peak 4y ago
    The wiki quote you replied with references the well known left leaning New York Times. I don't see any data that proves your point that woke is almost exclusively an insult. An observation is merely to collect information, you went out of your way to bring it up. I'm just curious as to what your motive is.
    - lapcat 4y ago
      I remember when the NYT propagandized for the Iraq invasion. Anyway, I have no aspiration to prove this point, you can believe whatever you want to believe. But at least believe that my impression is not unique in this respect. We all, everyone here in the HN comments, went out of our way to write comments and replies on the internets. It's actually not that hard to type stuff. At the moment, I've got too much free time on my hands.
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