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Parse it as "seemingly independent governments of the world and international big business blended and interlocked together to the point of being indistinguisha

Parse it as "seemingly independent governments of the world and international big business blended and interlocked together to the point of being indistinguishable" to ease the torture.

simonh 4y ago
We have a word for that, although it's meaning is a bit broader. Society.
- guerrilla 4y ago
  No, that excludes labor, i.e. the majority of people. Land, labor, capitol and state as per classical economics (Ricardo, Smith, etc.)
  - simonh 4y ago
    We're democracies, we vote. Oh also it's land, labour, capital and entrepreneurship in classical economics.
    - ccbccccbbcccbb 4y ago
      We as in Zamyatin's "We"?
    - guerrilla 4y ago
      > We're democracies, we vote. You vote what you're told to vote by the media that the state and capital dominate entirely (Think about it: how would enough people even hear about an alternative idea or candidate that they don't deem in their interest?) If you're American you get to choose between two millionaires (or sometimes billionaires) with virtually identical economic politics chosen in advanced for you who can safely ignore you once they get elected. "Democracy." > Oh also it's land, labour, capital and entrepreneurship in classical economics. First, no you're wrong, there are only three factors of production in classical economics which you would know if you read any of those authors or at least bothered to check Wikipedia[1]. Second, the state is not a factor of production, so you got the wrong list anyway. "Entrepreneurship" which isn't an institution, was made up by noeclassical economics to justify profit in the 30's, over 250 years later. It wasn't even popular until much later. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factors_of_production#A_fourth_factor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factors_of_production#A_fourth...?
- ccbccccbbcccbb 4y ago
  You are free to assign whatever sequence of phonemes you deem appropriate to the phenomenon, but the latter remains what it is regardless.

Parse it as "seemingly independent governments of the world and international big business blended and interlocked together to the point of being indistinguishable" to ease the torture.

simonh 4y ago

We have a word for that, although it's meaning is a bit broader. Society.

guerrilla 4y ago
No, that excludes labor, i.e. the majority of people. Land, labor, capitol and state as per classical economics (Ricardo, Smith, etc.)
- simonh 4y ago
  We're democracies, we vote. Oh also it's land, labour, capital and entrepreneurship in classical economics.
  - ccbccccbbcccbb 4y ago
    We as in Zamyatin's "We"?
  - guerrilla 4y ago
    > We're democracies, we vote. You vote what you're told to vote by the media that the state and capital dominate entirely (Think about it: how would enough people even hear about an alternative idea or candidate that they don't deem in their interest?) If you're American you get to choose between two millionaires (or sometimes billionaires) with virtually identical economic politics chosen in advanced for you who can safely ignore you once they get elected. "Democracy." > Oh also it's land, labour, capital and entrepreneurship in classical economics. First, no you're wrong, there are only three factors of production in classical economics which you would know if you read any of those authors or at least bothered to check Wikipedia[1]. Second, the state is not a factor of production, so you got the wrong list anyway. "Entrepreneurship" which isn't an institution, was made up by noeclassical economics to justify profit in the 30's, over 250 years later. It wasn't even popular until much later. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factors_of_production#A_fourth_factor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factors_of_production#A_fourth...?
ccbccccbbcccbb 4y ago
You are free to assign whatever sequence of phonemes you deem appropriate to the phenomenon, but the latter remains what it is regardless.