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California public school system is so atrociously bad that everyone with the means to do so should consider alternatives. You are doing a tremendous disservice

California public school system is so atrociously bad that everyone with the means to do so should consider alternatives. You are doing a tremendous disservice to your kids otherwise. I took my kids and left the state years ago and there hasn’t been a single day where I don’t feel certain I made the right decision.

jasonboyd 4y ago
Atrociously bad by what metric? I was born and raised in Florida, as was my wife. We are both frequently impressed by how advanced our kids are, scholastically speaking, compared to where we were at that age in Florida. Edit: We now live in California and our kids have only attended (public) school in California.
- murderfs 4y ago
  Did you self-select into a public school that only has rich students? The average for California is depressingly bad: e.g. https://edsource.org/2022/californias-detailed-test-data-gives-it-an-advantage-for-the-road-ahead/669450 https://edsource.org/2022/californias-detailed-test-data-giv... The response by the state is to propose lowering standards for basic math classes, while removing the option of higher level math classes for advanced students.
  - candiodari 4y ago
    > ... while removing the option of higher level math classes for advanced students. ... And in what I'm sure is a complete coincidence, the proportion of "very intelligent" or "disharmonic intelligence profile" or "savant syndrome" kids in youth services/youth care has gone up significantly. They now outnumber kids that committed crimes. They make "the Serway" available in Juvie these days, so obviously some very intelligent teenagers are committing crimes these days (probably because education is actually better in Juvie than in Youth Services) They're replacing advanced placement classes ... with straightjackets and bars. Social workers probably consider this a good thing too.
alimov 4y ago
Funding and proper use of funds, educator salaries, and a few other things should certainly be looked at. You can take your kids out of public school if you have the means, but they will be working with / living around people that went to public schools. I think the public school system needs better funding / resources and should be supported.

jasonboyd 4y ago

Atrociously bad by what metric? I was born and raised in Florida, as was my wife. We are both frequently impressed by how advanced our kids are, scholastically speaking, compared to where we were at that age in Florida. Edit: We now live in California and our kids have only attended (public) school in California.

murderfs 4y ago
Did you self-select into a public school that only has rich students? The average for California is depressingly bad: e.g. https://edsource.org/2022/californias-detailed-test-data-gives-it-an-advantage-for-the-road-ahead/669450 https://edsource.org/2022/californias-detailed-test-data-giv... The response by the state is to propose lowering standards for basic math classes, while removing the option of higher level math classes for advanced students.
- candiodari 4y ago
  > ... while removing the option of higher level math classes for advanced students. ... And in what I'm sure is a complete coincidence, the proportion of "very intelligent" or "disharmonic intelligence profile" or "savant syndrome" kids in youth services/youth care has gone up significantly. They now outnumber kids that committed crimes. They make "the Serway" available in Juvie these days, so obviously some very intelligent teenagers are committing crimes these days (probably because education is actually better in Juvie than in Youth Services) They're replacing advanced placement classes ... with straightjackets and bars. Social workers probably consider this a good thing too.

alimov 4y ago

Funding and proper use of funds, educator salaries, and a few other things should certainly be looked at. You can take your kids out of public school if you have the means, but they will be working with / living around people that went to public schools. I think the public school system needs better funding / resources and should be supported.