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I wish the article did a better job identifying the contribution of the two causes, because they tell very different stories. Are they claiming people are dropp

by HWR_14 4y ago

I wish the article did a better job identifying the contribution of the two causes, because they tell very different stories. Are they claiming people are dropping out of public education in favor of private/home schools or are they dropping out of NYC public schools in favor of Cheaper Place Public Schools?

xyzzyz 4y ago
This is New York Times. They want you to be confused.
DANK_YACHT 4y ago
The two causes listed were switching to private school and dropping out (meaning stopping education all together). The article mentions that school enrollment is down across the country, not just in large urban areas.
- JackFr 4y ago
  They mention in passing that Florida, where there was little or no remote learning during the pandemic, experienced no such drop. And yet the article seemed very reluctant to draw conclusions about that. The obvious answer is that for public schools (K-12) the experiment with remote learning was an abject failure if the highest order.
  - DANK_YACHT 4y ago
    No, the article mentioned remote learning explicitly. The article states it drove people to private schooling.
  - alphabettsy 4y ago
    Or that people moved to Florida?
  - adnmcq999 4y ago
    Yeah, my mom is an art teacher in MD. Idk if it’s b/c she’s so bad with tech or because her students are from working class families who probably didn’t have the luxury of wfh. But it was an absolute shit show. Like 10% of her students were even submitting hw
codefreeordie 4y ago
I'm sure both happen. Living in Orange County, I hear many people talk about home-schooling and private schools -- much more about education quality than masks or vaccines, but some of both. But then, I am less likely to chat with people who left for cheaper places (or live under a bridge near Disneyland)
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wahern 4y ago
I think the takeaway, in light of similar articles over the past year, is that nobody knows, yet. It'll take more time (maybe even another year or two) for all the numbers to come in and various patterns--in particular their magnitude relative to each other--confidently identified. I could hazard some educated guesses, as I'm sure you could as well, and we'd probably be right, but it's probably better if we just abstained from too much speculation. It's not like pinpointing the exact causes is going to help those public school districts already in dire financial straits; certainly not in the short-term, at least.
- codefreeordie 4y ago
  Presumably, the larger political debate around schools and education is playing a role too. It will take time to see how that plays out. The education system has become a hot political issue again for the first time in a long time, and that's got to contribute its bit.

by HWR_14 4y ago

xyzzyz 4y ago

This is New York Times. They want you to be confused.

DANK_YACHT 4y ago

The two causes listed were switching to private school and dropping out (meaning stopping education all together). The article mentions that school enrollment is down across the country, not just in large urban areas.

JackFr 4y ago
They mention in passing that Florida, where there was little or no remote learning during the pandemic, experienced no such drop. And yet the article seemed very reluctant to draw conclusions about that. The obvious answer is that for public schools (K-12) the experiment with remote learning was an abject failure if the highest order.
- DANK_YACHT 4y ago
  No, the article mentioned remote learning explicitly. The article states it drove people to private schooling.
- alphabettsy 4y ago
  Or that people moved to Florida?
- adnmcq999 4y ago
  Yeah, my mom is an art teacher in MD. Idk if it’s b/c she’s so bad with tech or because her students are from working class families who probably didn’t have the luxury of wfh. But it was an absolute shit show. Like 10% of her students were even submitting hw

codefreeordie 4y ago

I'm sure both happen. Living in Orange County, I hear many people talk about home-schooling and private schools -- much more about education quality than masks or vaccines, but some of both. But then, I am less likely to chat with people who left for cheaper places (or live under a bridge near Disneyland)

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wahern 4y ago

I think the takeaway, in light of similar articles over the past year, is that nobody knows, yet. It'll take more time (maybe even another year or two) for all the numbers to come in and various patterns--in particular their magnitude relative to each other--confidently identified. I could hazard some educated guesses, as I'm sure you could as well, and we'd probably be right, but it's probably better if we just abstained from too much speculation. It's not like pinpointing the exact causes is going to help those public school districts already in dire financial straits; certainly not in the short-term, at least.

codefreeordie 4y ago
Presumably, the larger political debate around schools and education is playing a role too. It will take time to see how that plays out. The education system has become a hot political issue again for the first time in a long time, and that's got to contribute its bit.