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>>Women also pick up a huge amount of work in the form of chores, childcare, emotional labor, and general running of the house<< It seems implicit in this stat

>>Women also pick up a huge amount of work in the form of chores, childcare, emotional labor, and general running of the house<< It seems implicit in this statement. I'm also the cook (my wife doesn't know how), we split laundry, handle child care together when possible (with my mother coming over to help). My wife is in school and doesn't earn an income ATM and we aren't sure what happens when she graduates, but even with me working full time chores are split as I work from home. Different people have different strengths. We have a son and there are some things I like that he does that she doesn't.

turtledove 4y ago
A generalization implicitly does not include all cases. The existence of counter examples does not invalidate the general case. Saying a pattern exists in no way implies you, specifically, fit that pattern.
- nickff 4y ago
  Your first post in this thread wasn't a clear generalization, it was a vague statement about what 'women do'. This could be interpreted as saying 'all women do', 'many women do', 'more women than men do', 'some women do', or 'modal women do'.
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- UnpossibleJim 4y ago
  Ok. Here's some data to let us know where things stand so we can at least know the lay of the land in this conversation. Talking generalizations without data doesn't do anyone much good... these were more disparate than I thought, though I'm willing to bet they aren't as far apart as you thought. As usual, the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle =) https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2015/11/04/raising-kids-and-running-a-household-how-working-parents-share-the-load/ https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2015/11/04/raising...
  - turtledove 4y ago
    This is about what I expected, thanks for the data. Many households share equally, a big chunk have the women doing more of the labor, and a small minority of household have men doing more.
PretzelPirate 4y ago
I want to support turtledove here. They weren’t expressing an opinion that men don’t do work, but stating what research shows: that women tend to take on unpaid work disproportionately to men, including house work: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34465574/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34465574/
tomjakubowski 4y ago
Women, in aggregate. Not every woman in every household.

turtledove 4y ago

A generalization implicitly does not include all cases. The existence of counter examples does not invalidate the general case. Saying a pattern exists in no way implies you, specifically, fit that pattern.

nickff 4y ago
Your first post in this thread wasn't a clear generalization, it was a vague statement about what 'women do'. This could be interpreted as saying 'all women do', 'many women do', 'more women than men do', 'some women do', or 'modal women do'.
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UnpossibleJim 4y ago
Ok. Here's some data to let us know where things stand so we can at least know the lay of the land in this conversation. Talking generalizations without data doesn't do anyone much good... these were more disparate than I thought, though I'm willing to bet they aren't as far apart as you thought. As usual, the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle =) https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2015/11/04/raising-kids-and-running-a-household-how-working-parents-share-the-load/ https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2015/11/04/raising...
- turtledove 4y ago
  This is about what I expected, thanks for the data. Many households share equally, a big chunk have the women doing more of the labor, and a small minority of household have men doing more.

PretzelPirate 4y ago

I want to support turtledove here. They weren’t expressing an opinion that men don’t do work, but stating what research shows: that women tend to take on unpaid work disproportionately to men, including house work: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34465574/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34465574/

tomjakubowski 4y ago

Women, in aggregate. Not every woman in every household.