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Alternative is to start demanding startups form co-ops. Probably heretical on HN as it flies in the face of the whole tech start-up dream, which is for a couple
by 0xbadcafebee 4y ago
Alternative is to start demanding startups form co-ops. Probably heretical on HN as it flies in the face of the whole tech start-up dream, which is for a couple tech bros to get massively rich at exit after overworking and under-rewarding a few employees. But a co-op would fairly represent the interests of all the workers without the adversarial nature of a union. You could represent your own interest and take votes on company direction.
- EddieDante 4y ago> Probably heretical on HN as it flies in the face of the whole tech start-up dream, which is for a couple tech bros to get massively rich at exit after overworking and under-rewarding a few employees I feel like a substantial portion of HN is basically College Republicans who majored in CS.
- Layke1123 4y agoI think it's more likely that it's run by the Venture Capitalists and they help curate and drive the narrative more than not in an attempt to hopefully capture a small portion of people who can actually do software well and believe their stories.
- l33t2328 4y agoSmartish people who wanted the possibility of getting really rich used to go to wall street (as bankers, funds managers, etc), but tech is all the rage these days.
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- greedo 4y agoTemporarily embarrassed millionaires...
- airforce1 4y agoI think the video game "Dead Cells" was created by a co-op
- EddieDante 4y agoYes, a French co-op.
- turtledove 4y agoSee also The Glory Society, KO_OP, Lucid Tales, Triple Topping, Future Club, Soft Not Weak, Stray Bombay, Pixel Pushers Union 512, Hopoo, Chromatic Games, to name a few other coop games studios.
- ratww 4y agoIn my personal and limited experience of being present in Union meetings, tech startups (the kind of we see on HN) were consistently more cut-throat and stubborn than enterprise, consulting and other tech businesses, so I doubt we'll see that voluntarily. Lifestyle business are a better bet... are those startups?
- turtledove 4y agoTech coops are great, and we need more of them.
- tick_tock_tick 4y agoBut if I'm joining another startup I explicit don't want "But a co-op would fairly represent the interests of all the workers without the adversarial nature of a union. You could represent your own interest and take votes on company direction.". I know exactly what I'm signing up for and it's not to guarantee failure. The reason I joined is because someone else has the vision and the dream or I would have done it myself.
- 0xbadcafebee 4y agoWhy would you expect representing yourself to guarantee failure? And why do you think you need visions and dreams? It's just work that you get a say in.
- tick_tock_tick 4y agoI don't want a say in it for a startup.... Nothing slows a project or work down more then a big group making decisions. I want one or two lead people making nearly all the calls that's what I signed up. I would quit if they lost the vision and started taking huge amounts of employee input. If I didn't want this I'd work at a big company.....