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“Simplifying the bull” is taught at “Apple University” https://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/11/technology/-inside-apples-internal-training-program-.amp.html https:/

by smugma 4y ago

“Simplifying the bull” is taught at “Apple University” https://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/11/technology/-inside-apples-internal-training-program-.amp.html https://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/11/technology/-inside-apples...

peoplefromibiza 4y ago
I am terrible at everything about hand drawing. I mean I can't even draw a square right. When I first saw "simplifying the bull" I felt I could draw a bull by replicating what Picasso did. I am still terrible, but in a way he gave me the tools to draw something (or an idea of it if you will) without being able to actually draw it. His process is assimilable to research at its best.
- neonnoodle 4y ago
  IMO learning to draw is sort of like creating your own compression algorithm. There are many different ways to distill the huge amount of visual information into that which can be expressed through abstraction on a two-dimensional plane. The coolest part to me is that while some of these algorithms are lossy, others are...gainy? (what's the opposite of lossy...?) Depending on how you tune your simplification of the subject, the result can look MORE like the essence of the thing than the thing itself. The magic of caricature.
  - peoplefromibiza 4y ago
    completely agree! My girlfriend she's a painter and studied fine arts in a London art school. First thing she told me is that everything is asymmetrical, if you're measuring distances, you're doing it completely wrong. Second thin she told me is that details are completely useless - if not confusing - if you don't get the basic shapes right. As you correctly point out it's like a compression algorithm, and like compression algorithms (as a computer scientist) I think implementing what's already working is easier than come up with your own new algorithm. But, despite all the help I got, I'm - unfortunately for me - still a terrible draftsman.
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LegitShady 4y ago
I'd rather learn to draw gesture (which is what is described even if they didn't know the name for it) and simplifying from Glenn Vilppu or Steve Huston, personally, and you don't need mystique about the class like this article tries to evoke. You can find both at New Masters Academy (NMA.art) for a super reasonable monthly cost - sort of like an art lessons netflix. If your goal is to draw like picasso you need to be where he is at 15 before you understand what you're simplifying. Even after you take apple's class you'll have concepts but you won't have thousands of hours of practice that actually using any of those lessons requires.

by smugma 4y ago

peoplefromibiza 4y ago

I am terrible at everything about hand drawing. I mean I can't even draw a square right. When I first saw "simplifying the bull" I felt I could draw a bull by replicating what Picasso did. I am still terrible, but in a way he gave me the tools to draw something (or an idea of it if you will) without being able to actually draw it. His process is assimilable to research at its best.

neonnoodle 4y ago
IMO learning to draw is sort of like creating your own compression algorithm. There are many different ways to distill the huge amount of visual information into that which can be expressed through abstraction on a two-dimensional plane. The coolest part to me is that while some of these algorithms are lossy, others are...gainy? (what's the opposite of lossy...?) Depending on how you tune your simplification of the subject, the result can look MORE like the essence of the thing than the thing itself. The magic of caricature.
- peoplefromibiza 4y ago
  completely agree! My girlfriend she's a painter and studied fine arts in a London art school. First thing she told me is that everything is asymmetrical, if you're measuring distances, you're doing it completely wrong. Second thin she told me is that details are completely useless - if not confusing - if you don't get the basic shapes right. As you correctly point out it's like a compression algorithm, and like compression algorithms (as a computer scientist) I think implementing what's already working is easier than come up with your own new algorithm. But, despite all the help I got, I'm - unfortunately for me - still a terrible draftsman.
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LegitShady 4y ago

I'd rather learn to draw gesture (which is what is described even if they didn't know the name for it) and simplifying from Glenn Vilppu or Steve Huston, personally, and you don't need mystique about the class like this article tries to evoke. You can find both at New Masters Academy (NMA.art) for a super reasonable monthly cost - sort of like an art lessons netflix. If your goal is to draw like picasso you need to be where he is at 15 before you understand what you're simplifying. Even after you take apple's class you'll have concepts but you won't have thousands of hours of practice that actually using any of those lessons requires.