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He was probably using software, like Canon's Webcam Utility, to stream his camera's HDMI OUT to his computer instead of using a capture card. He likely did this
by nunez 4y ago
He was probably using software, like Canon's Webcam Utility, to stream his camera's HDMI OUT to his computer instead of using a capture card. He likely did this because of his camera not having "clean" HDMI output (i.e. you'd see icons if he were to capture what was on his camera's screen). Software like this is extremely unreliable by comparison and consumes CPU cycles like crazy, both on the camera and on your computer.
Additionally, for most cameras, the input feed used by the software goes through the camera's image processing stack as if they were using the real-time "Live View" feature (i.e. showing you the image you're going to take post-processing, i.e. real-time image processing). This often heats the camera up and causes it to shut down due to thermal overload. If you use a capture card, it captures whatever's on the screen without hitting the image processing stack, which is much less resource-intensive.
The first person I interviewed with this setup had the same problem. He looked great, but the software processing the input from his camera made him lag horribly.
I have a Canon M200 mirrorless SLR with an Elgato HDMI Capture card and have used it for all-day online meetings (even through OBS!) with no issues at all. Startup takes me, like, 30 seconds: turn key and fill lights on, turn camera on, press hotkey to start OBS, Krisp and Zoom, turn on video.
- formerly_proven 4y ago> Additionally, for most cameras, the input feed used by the software goes through the camera's image processing stack as if they were using the real-time "Live View" feature (i.e. showing you the image you're going to take post-processing, i.e. real-time image processing). This often heats the camera up and causes it to shut down due to thermal overload. If you use a capture card, it captures whatever's on the screen without hitting the image processing stack, which is much less resource-intensive. These pathways are the same. You're decidedly not getting raw video out of (most) consumer cameras via HDMI.
- PragmaticPulp 4y ago> He was probably using software, like Canon's Webcam Utility, to stream his camera's HDMI OUT to his computer instead of using a capture card. No, he was using an HDMI capture card and trying to do things with OBS. > Startup takes me, like, 30 seconds: turn key and fill lights on, turn camera on, press hotkey to start OBS, Krisp and Zoom, turn on video. Which is all great and fine if you've got it perfected and you're the type of person to handle all of this before the meeting starts. But when someone shows up late to a meeting or forgets to prepare, it's far easier for everyone involve if they can just open their laptop and join the meeting with the built-in webcam instead of turning on their camera, turning on lights, starting OBS, confirming all the settings, etc.
- modzu 4y agojust upload pictures of your faces to zoom and there u go boss
- ChuckNorris89 4y agoLike profile pictures?
- jtvjan 4y agoTake a picture of your face, set it as your background in OBS, and stream that. It's much more convenient, because you only have to make sure your camera works well once, instead of for every meeting.
- Thorrez 4y agoHow is streaming a picture to Zoom more convenient than uploading a profile picture to Zoom? If you stream the picture, you have to have special software running all the time. With a profile picture, you don't.
- mkr-hn 4y agoYou could even have it change at random intervals so it looks like you're on a choppy connection.
- dvtrn 4y agoLet's just end the simulacra and embrace the absurd, take a video of yourself walking into the room, acting surprised that someone's on a call and awkwardly backing out of the room, if your platform supports animated backgrounds, use it. Take anyone who notices and asks if you have a previously undisclosed twin-sibling out to dinner for being observant. Bonus points if you wear the same clothes as your video self to really mess with someone's head
- GekkePrutser 4y ago
- __mharrison__ 4y agoI'm using a Canon M50 just with the webcam software. (I don't think it has clean HDMI out so capture card won't help with this camera.) I've since started recording some of my courses directly from OBS. [0] The framerate probably suffers, but I've never had thermal/overheating issues. 0 - https://store.metasnake.com/view/courses/a1a19c9e-af18-4615-b0ff-dac86b6eb441/1224375-introduction/3729241-clip1-mov https://store.metasnake.com/view/courses/a1a19c9e-af18-4615-...
- bob1029 4y agoThis is what I use as well. The software can be a slight pain in the ass, but once you get used to a handful of quirks it's pretty smooth sailing. I've used it for teams calls, web-based barcode scanning testing, etc. Never had it cut out on me due to some arbitrary limitation. Having a webcam on a proper tripod makes it really easy to control variables in testing of things like barcode scanning and other image recognition tasks as well. Being able to swap lenses and manually control the entire system can make a huge difference for my purposes. I will tape my test samples to a whiteboard (sometimes with varying backgrounds) and place the camera at a fixed location from it. I don't go much further than the camera and basic software. I don't have patience for backdrops, lights, finicky software chains, etc. I simply do M50=>canon software=>windows webcam device.
- scyzoryk_xyz 4y agoI’m starting to suspect something is wrong with our Elgato card because it has been a hit and miss experience for a long time now. We also have a knock off chinese 4k stream box (not the total dirt cheap ones) and that has sometimes been better than the elgato.