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5% of 100 phones is 5 phones. 5% of 200,000,000 is 10,000,000. 5% can be a huge number, or a tiny number, depending on what it's 5% of. I switched from Andro

5% of 100 phones is 5 phones. 5% of 200,000,000 is 10,000,000. 5% can be a huge number, or a tiny number, depending on what it's 5% of. I switched from Android to Apple specifically for the iPhone mini, and if they killed it, I would switch to the smallest phone on the market.

DANK_YACHT 4y ago
My point is that 5% is probably an irrelevant number because it’s not 5% additional sales. If the mini wasn’t available, many people would get a normal iPhone instead of switch to Android. So the net sales is closer to 0. Apple seems to agree with this sentiment and there will be no mini starting with the iPhone 14: https://9to5mac.com/2022/03/14/exclusive-iphone-14-coming-in-four-models-without-mini-version-pro-models-with-taller-screen-satellite-features-still-coming/amp/ https://9to5mac.com/2022/03/14/exclusive-iphone-14-coming-in... Good luck with your switch.
- criddell 4y ago
  That's why I picked up an iPhone 13 Mini. It's a really great phone and when I need a new phone six years from now, I'm hoping there's something as good to replace it.
- nostromo 4y ago
  Phone sales aren’t driven by switching, and haven’t been for a while, they’re about upgrading. Apple knows this better than anyone. For example: I upgrade my phone every two years or so, so long as I like the new phones. If I don’t like the new phones, I wait as long as possible. People that like smaller phones won’t necessarily leave the iPhone if they kill the Mini - they will just keep their current phones for as long as possible. And that can indeed hurt sales, even if Apple doesn’t lose market share.
4ggr0 4y ago
I switched to Apple after 10 years of using Android. Wanted to have a good and small phone, which the 12 mini is. Was a hard decision, because my Android was rooted with LineageOS, was able to block ads and all kinds of nice things. But ultimately, it just pissed me off too much to carry around a bulky phone (Fairphone 3). Fairly happy with the 12 mini, just don't like the Apple ecosystem that much.
brewdad 4y ago
Is there a world where the iPhone mini is necessary or desirable when the iPhone SE also exists? I don't see a need for both, especially when they run the same processor under the hood.
- isoprophlex 4y ago
  Optics on the 13 mini are significantly better!
- ska 4y ago
  Doesn't the SE have an significantly worse & smaller screen (not to mention camera), although it's a slightly larger package? SE is clearly a 'budget' (at least for apple) phone. Some people really want a small phone that isn't.
- gonehome 4y ago
  The mini is a flagship phone with flagship specs and better design. The newest SE is substantially larger and worse. I love my mini, but it’s also clear this is the last one.
- robertoandred 4y ago
  The current SE is bigger than the mini.
- dont__panic 4y ago
  I use an iPhone SE 2016, which uses the same chassis as the iPhone 5/5s. I tried an iPhone 6S for a year before I got this phone. Couldn't stand the size. The current SE is the same size as the 6S. I'm basically stuck at a dead-end of phone size. The current SE is not compact by historical standards. I'm not saying all phones need to be smaller, I just want one decent option.
- buildsjets 4y ago
  The iPhone SE is a full-sized phone. It just happens to be obsolete in the marketplace, and the other full-sized phones it competes against have become even fuller sized.

DANK_YACHT 4y ago

My point is that 5% is probably an irrelevant number because it’s not 5% additional sales. If the mini wasn’t available, many people would get a normal iPhone instead of switch to Android. So the net sales is closer to 0. Apple seems to agree with this sentiment and there will be no mini starting with the iPhone 14: https://9to5mac.com/2022/03/14/exclusive-iphone-14-coming-in-four-models-without-mini-version-pro-models-with-taller-screen-satellite-features-still-coming/amp/ https://9to5mac.com/2022/03/14/exclusive-iphone-14-coming-in... Good luck with your switch.

criddell 4y ago
That's why I picked up an iPhone 13 Mini. It's a really great phone and when I need a new phone six years from now, I'm hoping there's something as good to replace it.
nostromo 4y ago
Phone sales aren’t driven by switching, and haven’t been for a while, they’re about upgrading. Apple knows this better than anyone. For example: I upgrade my phone every two years or so, so long as I like the new phones. If I don’t like the new phones, I wait as long as possible. People that like smaller phones won’t necessarily leave the iPhone if they kill the Mini - they will just keep their current phones for as long as possible. And that can indeed hurt sales, even if Apple doesn’t lose market share.

4ggr0 4y ago

I switched to Apple after 10 years of using Android. Wanted to have a good and small phone, which the 12 mini is. Was a hard decision, because my Android was rooted with LineageOS, was able to block ads and all kinds of nice things. But ultimately, it just pissed me off too much to carry around a bulky phone (Fairphone 3). Fairly happy with the 12 mini, just don't like the Apple ecosystem that much.

brewdad 4y ago

Is there a world where the iPhone mini is necessary or desirable when the iPhone SE also exists? I don't see a need for both, especially when they run the same processor under the hood.

isoprophlex 4y ago
Optics on the 13 mini are significantly better!
ska 4y ago
Doesn't the SE have an significantly worse & smaller screen (not to mention camera), although it's a slightly larger package? SE is clearly a 'budget' (at least for apple) phone. Some people really want a small phone that isn't.
gonehome 4y ago
The mini is a flagship phone with flagship specs and better design. The newest SE is substantially larger and worse. I love my mini, but it’s also clear this is the last one.
robertoandred 4y ago
The current SE is bigger than the mini.
dont__panic 4y ago
I use an iPhone SE 2016, which uses the same chassis as the iPhone 5/5s. I tried an iPhone 6S for a year before I got this phone. Couldn't stand the size. The current SE is the same size as the 6S. I'm basically stuck at a dead-end of phone size. The current SE is not compact by historical standards. I'm not saying all phones need to be smaller, I just want one decent option.
buildsjets 4y ago
The iPhone SE is a full-sized phone. It just happens to be obsolete in the marketplace, and the other full-sized phones it competes against have become even fuller sized.