From my original post: - There is a timestamp where it plans a bad route briefly. That is something to investigate and fix even if it didn't ultimately keep th

From my original post: - There is a timestamp where it plans a bad route briefly. That is something to investigate and fix even if it didn't ultimately keep that route. - It also enters a lane with markings indicating that it shouldn't be entered. That is another serious issue that needs to be addressed. > It doesn't matter whether Tesla ultimately planned to enter the center left turn lane; It absolutely matters; figuring out the root cause of the issue is the essential thing, not scaring people. Self-driving cars are already safer to use than regular vehicles. Scaring people out of them rather than solving the root cause of issues with them will kill people. What I'm doing, which others aren't, which makes me seem so counter-cultural, is that I'm putting this video in context rather than accepting the headline at face value. This is a video of a self-driving car + human not getting into an accident. People who hate Tesla want to make that seem like a horrifying thing. In contrast, there are roughly 30,000 deaths a year due to driving accidents in the US alone. If you treated self-driving like you treat human-driving we would watch videos of deaths every single day on Hacker News. Every single day, without fail, there would be a new video we could post where someone died. We wouldn't get once in a month a video where someone didn't even get into an accident. People would die in the video, because humans are worse drivers than humans + AI. I know that context. I know that regular cars are killing people everyday. I'm not forgetting that when I watch a video where an accident doesn't happen. I'm not accepting the empirically falsified perspective that self-driving is less safe, because the stats don't back up that assertion. I'm instead noticing that the video title was editorialized. I'm noticing that goes against the Hacker News guidelines. It disgusts me that it is, because I'm aware that convincing people that self-driving cars + humans are less safe than they are has the net effect of killing people by reducing prevalence. I don't consider that a good thing. People who are freaking out over Tesla have a very distorted sense of how safe these cars are and a very distorted sense of how safe human drivers are. We're definitely not at the point where the vehicles can drive on their own, but we are definitely past the point where it is better to let the human drive on their own than to pair them with an AI. One video a month where someone doesn't get into accident in a Tesla, but I see as many cases where the Tesla stops an accident. Yet if I engaged in the same behavior as OP for regular cars, I could post literally hundreds of videos of actual death. I wouldn't need to editorialize.