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Sorry I should specify that I live in Germany and 19 per 100k is almost 3 times the maternal mortality rate here, and we're already a little high compared to mo

Sorry I should specify that I live in Germany and 19 per 100k is almost 3 times the maternal mortality rate here, and we're already a little high compared to most of the EU. Sure if you compare it to countries with barely any medical infrastructure it's very low, but for a rich nation it's terrifyingly high. Even with your child you're not obligated to donate blood or organs, which is more analogous than giving food since giving someone food doesn't impact your health or body in any direct way. In some places in the US you don't even have to provide a child with health care if it goes against your religion, I don't see why you should be forced to give up your body for 9 months and then also possibly suffer various conditions afterwards or death.

anamax 4y ago
FWIW, the abortion restrictions which were upheld in the US are less restrictive than France's.
- EntropyIsAHoax 4y ago
  Yeah and abortion is also practically illegal in Germany :( I don't really understand the legal framework for it but definitely a lot of abortions that are performed here are technically illegal, it's just not enforced. And France has a lot of problems with right-wing ideologies. All but the furthest left parties in France are violently islamaphobic, for instance. In their recent elections they almost elected Le Pen (again) who wants to leave the EU, has close ties to Russia, is extremely LGBTQ-phobic, etc... Europe has a rising alt-right problem in every country that I have any knowledge of their politics. Of course some of it is not new either, like Poland has never had legal abortions, many (if not most countries) still make changing your legal name and gender very difficult and/or humiliating, and many countries still don't even have same-sex marriage. Far from the liberal paradise I see US republicans online make it out to be
robonerd 4y ago
> in Germany and 19 per 100k is almost 3 times the maternal mortality rate here, and we're already a little high compared to most of the EU. Sure if you compare it to countries with barely any medical infrastructure it's very low, but for a rich nation it's terrifyingly high. If you only have a penny and I have a nickel, I am 5x richer than you. But am I terrifyingly rich? 0.00019 is certainly bigger than 0.00006, but they're both quite small.

anamax 4y ago

FWIW, the abortion restrictions which were upheld in the US are less restrictive than France's.

EntropyIsAHoax 4y ago
Yeah and abortion is also practically illegal in Germany :( I don't really understand the legal framework for it but definitely a lot of abortions that are performed here are technically illegal, it's just not enforced. And France has a lot of problems with right-wing ideologies. All but the furthest left parties in France are violently islamaphobic, for instance. In their recent elections they almost elected Le Pen (again) who wants to leave the EU, has close ties to Russia, is extremely LGBTQ-phobic, etc... Europe has a rising alt-right problem in every country that I have any knowledge of their politics. Of course some of it is not new either, like Poland has never had legal abortions, many (if not most countries) still make changing your legal name and gender very difficult and/or humiliating, and many countries still don't even have same-sex marriage. Far from the liberal paradise I see US republicans online make it out to be

robonerd 4y ago

> in Germany and 19 per 100k is almost 3 times the maternal mortality rate here, and we're already a little high compared to most of the EU. Sure if you compare it to countries with barely any medical infrastructure it's very low, but for a rich nation it's terrifyingly high. If you only have a penny and I have a nickel, I am 5x richer than you. But am I terrifyingly rich? 0.00019 is certainly bigger than 0.00006, but they're both quite small.