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I get some of the frustration (especially with the projects using Discord for bug reporting and worse yet, hosting builds), but I think most of the uses are leg

by Hamcha 4y ago

I get some of the frustration (especially with the projects using Discord for bug reporting and worse yet, hosting builds), but I think most of the uses are legitimate. Yes Discord is far from the best in most cases, but you can't deny how easy it is to onboard someone by telling them "just join the Discord" vs any alternative out there. ANY. I use my Discord servers for doing events, knowledge store (thanks pinned messages and mostly-functional search) and even just knowing when my favorite streamers go live (since Twitch notifications NEVER worked for me). You wanna go back to forums? Get a nice free hosted forum service that can eliminate as much friction as possible from joining and contributing. People will use whatever they find comfortable, even when it means using GitHub issues for blog comments.

foxes 4y ago
The average HN commentor seems like they are extremely out of touch. Most normal people do not care about the alleged privacy violations. They don't care it uses electron. For most people it runs fine. Honestly I know more, and I don't care much either, I think of it as an open public space and act accordingly. Most people do not want to have to sign into 20 different forums or use some archaic chat program. Matrix is nice but it still sucks in comparison. Discord voice and screen sharing is great. To solve the knowledge transparency issue, why not just get a bot to export your discussions to an open wiki/log/github/etc if you reach a resolution. A bot could probably make it all pretty seamless. Reading this website sometimes feels like people are extremely upset they cant make everyone else use primordial 90s software, writing everything in c and php, and also forcing everyone to use websites consisting solely of plain text files.
- aaomidi 4y ago
  I think there is a legitimate concern here though. Discord, slack, etc have made it IMPOSSIBLE to get asynchronous help. Discord and slack and the other tools can help with this by allowing search engine indexing for these large public chats. Heck even github has been fucking with crawlers indexing issues and PRs. We literally now have websites that go and make a copy of github issue and make themselves indexable so search engines can pick them up. I legitimately don't care about privacy issues with these platforms, my only issue is that they've made self learning so much more difficult.
- Arathorn 4y ago
  > Matrix is nice but it still sucks in comparison. Discord voice and screen sharing is great. fwiw we’re in the middle of implementing this right now.

by Hamcha 4y ago

foxes 4y ago

The average HN commentor seems like they are extremely out of touch. Most normal people do not care about the alleged privacy violations. They don't care it uses electron. For most people it runs fine. Honestly I know more, and I don't care much either, I think of it as an open public space and act accordingly. Most people do not want to have to sign into 20 different forums or use some archaic chat program. Matrix is nice but it still sucks in comparison. Discord voice and screen sharing is great. To solve the knowledge transparency issue, why not just get a bot to export your discussions to an open wiki/log/github/etc if you reach a resolution. A bot could probably make it all pretty seamless. Reading this website sometimes feels like people are extremely upset they cant make everyone else use primordial 90s software, writing everything in c and php, and also forcing everyone to use websites consisting solely of plain text files.

aaomidi 4y ago
I think there is a legitimate concern here though. Discord, slack, etc have made it IMPOSSIBLE to get asynchronous help. Discord and slack and the other tools can help with this by allowing search engine indexing for these large public chats. Heck even github has been fucking with crawlers indexing issues and PRs. We literally now have websites that go and make a copy of github issue and make themselves indexable so search engines can pick them up. I legitimately don't care about privacy issues with these platforms, my only issue is that they've made self learning so much more difficult.
Arathorn 4y ago
> Matrix is nice but it still sucks in comparison. Discord voice and screen sharing is great. fwiw we’re in the middle of implementing this right now.