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This looks cool. I just started using MindNode yesterday [0] which is a similar tool (although it takes a very different approach - it's more visual). I wasn't

This looks cool. I just started using MindNode yesterday [0] which is a similar tool (although it takes a very different approach - it's more visual). I wasn't sure of the effectiveness of these sort of tools as I usually just use text files + Notability sketches but I have to say they are very useful in helping to structure thoughts better. I'm interested to try this. [0] https://www.mindnode.com/ https://www.mindnode.com/

Void_ 4y ago
It would be interesting to see MindNode approach applied to PKM-style backlinks like in Reflect [1]. So not only visualize connections between pages, but also the outline inside each page. [1] https://reflect.app https://reflect.app
- innocentoldguy 4y ago
  How does Reflect compare to Noteplan 3? They both look similar.
jessegrosjean 4y ago
Nice think about Mindnode and Bike is copy/paste between the two works quite well.
selykg 4y ago
Bonus is that Mindnode has a built in outliner view as well. I use Mindnode for this type of thing 99% of the time.
- iaresee 4y ago
  Another long time MindNode user here. I know the nested lists and map views are essentially two visualizations of the same structured data but my brain just finds the maps less thought-constraining. I end up with more creative paths in map view when I use it to plan. Horses for courses I guess. Bike looks neat though.
  - selykg 4y ago
    I'm generally in agreement, but when I need to share something, the outline tends to be easiest to share with others. I'm really happy it's there. Maps for me, outline for others.
wintermutestwin 4y ago
Oh cool, I've been looking for a mindmap app. Oh wait - it is a subscription? Why? That makes zero sense. <spews out vitriol>
- aosaigh 4y ago
  Ah I didn't realise. I have it through SetApp, which itself is a subscription, albeit an easier subscription to swallow as you get access to a number of great apps.
  - EricE 4y ago
    Yup - without SetApp there are a number of apps I wouldn't otherwise be able to justify spending on individually; but as a group I get more than enough value. It's a tough balance. Software doesn't age like fine wine sitting on a shelf - it lives in a dynamic environment. It's more akin to produce that will rot over time. Even if no new features are added, it still requires maintenance - by someone.
- chipotle_coyote 4y ago
  While I’m sympathetic to that, I’ve (somewhat) come around on the notion of “subscription apps” if the developers are responsible with it. I’ve found that in most cases, new features that would probably be held for major version releases (e.g., “this is a feature that would entice you to pay for the upgrade”) just come out when they’re ready; it’s essentially shifting the app to a rolling release model. The traditional commercial model of “buy the new major version and get free updates until the next major version that makes you buy it again, hopefully at a discount” does always give you the option of not upgrading if you don’t want the new features, to be sure, but if you are a regular user and tend to buy upgrades as they come out, the price difference tends to be minimal. Having said that, I’m not sure a subscription model makes sense for an app like MindNode, since I’d bet a majority of its users only work on mind maps sporadically That’s conjecture on my part, of course, and I could be absolutely wrong, but I suspect people who do everything with mind maps are fairly few and far between. Paying annually for Ulysses, a writing app I really do use every day, is one thing; paying for MindNode, which I use maybe once a quarter, is a big ask.

Void_ 4y ago

It would be interesting to see MindNode approach applied to PKM-style backlinks like in Reflect [1]. So not only visualize connections between pages, but also the outline inside each page. [1] https://reflect.app https://reflect.app

innocentoldguy 4y ago
How does Reflect compare to Noteplan 3? They both look similar.

jessegrosjean 4y ago

Nice think about Mindnode and Bike is copy/paste between the two works quite well.

selykg 4y ago

Bonus is that Mindnode has a built in outliner view as well. I use Mindnode for this type of thing 99% of the time.

iaresee 4y ago
Another long time MindNode user here. I know the nested lists and map views are essentially two visualizations of the same structured data but my brain just finds the maps less thought-constraining. I end up with more creative paths in map view when I use it to plan. Horses for courses I guess. Bike looks neat though.
- selykg 4y ago
  I'm generally in agreement, but when I need to share something, the outline tends to be easiest to share with others. I'm really happy it's there. Maps for me, outline for others.

wintermutestwin 4y ago

Oh cool, I've been looking for a mindmap app. Oh wait - it is a subscription? Why? That makes zero sense. <spews out vitriol>

aosaigh 4y ago
Ah I didn't realise. I have it through SetApp, which itself is a subscription, albeit an easier subscription to swallow as you get access to a number of great apps.
- EricE 4y ago
  Yup - without SetApp there are a number of apps I wouldn't otherwise be able to justify spending on individually; but as a group I get more than enough value. It's a tough balance. Software doesn't age like fine wine sitting on a shelf - it lives in a dynamic environment. It's more akin to produce that will rot over time. Even if no new features are added, it still requires maintenance - by someone.
chipotle_coyote 4y ago
While I’m sympathetic to that, I’ve (somewhat) come around on the notion of “subscription apps” if the developers are responsible with it. I’ve found that in most cases, new features that would probably be held for major version releases (e.g., “this is a feature that would entice you to pay for the upgrade”) just come out when they’re ready; it’s essentially shifting the app to a rolling release model. The traditional commercial model of “buy the new major version and get free updates until the next major version that makes you buy it again, hopefully at a discount” does always give you the option of not upgrading if you don’t want the new features, to be sure, but if you are a regular user and tend to buy upgrades as they come out, the price difference tends to be minimal. Having said that, I’m not sure a subscription model makes sense for an app like MindNode, since I’d bet a majority of its users only work on mind maps sporadically That’s conjecture on my part, of course, and I could be absolutely wrong, but I suspect people who do everything with mind maps are fairly few and far between. Paying annually for Ulysses, a writing app I really do use every day, is one thing; paying for MindNode, which I use maybe once a quarter, is a big ask.