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That’s a week cop out from Apple when they offer far less protection in Native and allow apps to use Bluetooth to monitor your location. Web Bluetooth has much

That’s a week cop out from Apple when they offer far less protection in Native and allow apps to use Bluetooth to monitor your location. Web Bluetooth has much BETTER security and privacy than native. By not providing functionality it forces apps to use the AppStore.

dmitriid 4y ago
> That’s a week cop out from Apple Too bad Mozilla also thinks the same way. > By not providing functionality it forces apps to use the AppStore. Nice conspiracy theory. I wonder if Mozilla execs are in on it.
- mtomweb 4y ago
  Mozilla seems to have come around with WebMIDI, so thats a good step in the right direction. The functionality is not limited to device APIs, it covers every aspect of the browser. See: https://open-web-advocacy.org/walled-gardens-report/#hobbled-competition-even-within-safari-clones https://open-web-advocacy.org/walled-gardens-report/#hobbled... and https://open-web-advocacy.org/walled-gardens-report/#missing-functionality https://open-web-advocacy.org/walled-gardens-report/#missing...
  - dmitriid 4y ago
    > Mozilla seems to have come around with WebMIDI And yet, we are in a thread about WebBluetooth. Both Safari and Mozilla have the same stance: until a proper solution for privacy issues with hardware specs is found, we oppose them. For WebMIDI it seems Mozilla has found a solution they are happy with. I wouldn't hold mu breath for others. The links you provided assume Mozilla is in on Apple conspiracy, too. It's also a very one-sided take which completely ignores the elephant in the room. See this: https://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2021/08/breaking_the_we.html https://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2021/08/breaking_th...
- mtomweb 4y ago
  Web Bluetooth is significantly safer than native bluetooth + the safest car is the one that doesn't start is not a good direction for the web.

dmitriid 4y ago

> That’s a week cop out from Apple Too bad Mozilla also thinks the same way. > By not providing functionality it forces apps to use the AppStore. Nice conspiracy theory. I wonder if Mozilla execs are in on it.

mtomweb 4y ago
Mozilla seems to have come around with WebMIDI, so thats a good step in the right direction. The functionality is not limited to device APIs, it covers every aspect of the browser. See: https://open-web-advocacy.org/walled-gardens-report/#hobbled-competition-even-within-safari-clones https://open-web-advocacy.org/walled-gardens-report/#hobbled... and https://open-web-advocacy.org/walled-gardens-report/#missing-functionality https://open-web-advocacy.org/walled-gardens-report/#missing...
- dmitriid 4y ago
  > Mozilla seems to have come around with WebMIDI And yet, we are in a thread about WebBluetooth. Both Safari and Mozilla have the same stance: until a proper solution for privacy issues with hardware specs is found, we oppose them. For WebMIDI it seems Mozilla has found a solution they are happy with. I wouldn't hold mu breath for others. The links you provided assume Mozilla is in on Apple conspiracy, too. It's also a very one-sided take which completely ignores the elephant in the room. See this: https://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2021/08/breaking_the_we.html https://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2021/08/breaking_th...
mtomweb 4y ago
Web Bluetooth is significantly safer than native bluetooth + the safest car is the one that doesn't start is not a good direction for the web.