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The amount of people who knows what Musk is thinking either here or on Twitter as this story has developed that have been continually wrong at every step is, fr

The amount of people who knows what Musk is thinking either here or on Twitter as this story has developed that have been continually wrong at every step is, frankly, really surprising. Yet still people speculate as if they know him, know his thoughts, know his intentions. It feels like pure projection. I have been following the story with curiosity because I think disruption at Twitter could be fascinating. The impact other than pretending to know what Musk is thinking has already been profound. I say this as someone without any skin in the fight.

MrMan 4y ago
I agree - everyone who predicted that musk would try to get out of this deal was wrong. Fascinating
- nickstinemates 4y ago
  Just like everyone KNEW/predicted he wasn't going to get or want a board seat after he bought 9%. Just like everyone KNEW/predicted he was going for a hostile takeover. Just like everyone KNEW/predicted that he wasn't going to be able to raise funds. With all sorts of projection and rambling and confidence. It's so weird.
  - MrMan 4y ago
    this isnt a sports team subreddit - no one needs to hear you complaining about mythical aggregated other users' wrong opinions. it comes off as petty and preening
  - thaway2839 4y ago
    I have never seen any of those claims being made. 1) The 9% was surprising because everyone believed Musk had not taken any steps, because he was legally required to publicly declare when he acquired 5%. Which he did not do until much later, in order to lower his acquisition price, and is now under an SEC investigation for it. 2) I'm not sure who was predicting a hostile takeover. His suggested price was high enough that most commentators said it would be fiscally irresponsible of the board to turn down the offer. Which is why the board accepted the offer the moment Musk showed any signs of raising funds. 3) No one believed that he wouldn't be able to raise funds. It was pretty obvious he could. The question was whether he was interested in, considering he had taken no steps to raise the funds and it was fairly obvious that it would require him to sell/pledge Tesla shares hurting the TSLA stock price, and it wasn't clear he would want to do that.
    - nickstinemates 4y ago
      We must have read different 900+ comment threads on Hacker News and follow different people on Twitter.
      - MrMan 4y ago
        Do you have any actual points to make besides calling out strawman for being insufficiently correct? Maybe you could recite some of Musks achievements or otherwise entertain us
      - deleted 4y ago
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danso 4y ago
The people who believe Musk is being a bullshitter are still in the running for being “mostly right” in this situation. A few years ago, Musk got emotional and publicly accused one of his critics of being a “pedo”. He doubled down on this lie when goaded on Twitter. And when he realized he had to have some kind of evidence, he in desperation paid $52,000 to a private investigator to dig up anything on his “pedo” critic. The PI turned out to be a scammer and convicted felon: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/elon-musk-hired-felon-james-howard-higgins-dirt-pedo-guy https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/elon-musk-hired... There’s little reason to believe that Musk is a grand genius with plans too smart for the common mind to grasp, rather than just another all-too fallible human.
- nickstinemates 4y ago
  > There’s little reason to believe that Musk is a grand genius with plans too smart for the common mind to grasp, rather than just another all-too fallible human. Who said this or insinuated it? My only point is people who don't know the man, or his motivation, or what he wants to do are making arguments as if they do. Or putting words in peoples mouths. Or bringing up irrelevant facts that have nothing to do with the purchase of twitter.
- encryptluks2 4y ago

MrMan 4y ago

I agree - everyone who predicted that musk would try to get out of this deal was wrong. Fascinating

nickstinemates 4y ago
Just like everyone KNEW/predicted he wasn't going to get or want a board seat after he bought 9%. Just like everyone KNEW/predicted he was going for a hostile takeover. Just like everyone KNEW/predicted that he wasn't going to be able to raise funds. With all sorts of projection and rambling and confidence. It's so weird.
- MrMan 4y ago
  this isnt a sports team subreddit - no one needs to hear you complaining about mythical aggregated other users' wrong opinions. it comes off as petty and preening
- thaway2839 4y ago
  I have never seen any of those claims being made. 1) The 9% was surprising because everyone believed Musk had not taken any steps, because he was legally required to publicly declare when he acquired 5%. Which he did not do until much later, in order to lower his acquisition price, and is now under an SEC investigation for it. 2) I'm not sure who was predicting a hostile takeover. His suggested price was high enough that most commentators said it would be fiscally irresponsible of the board to turn down the offer. Which is why the board accepted the offer the moment Musk showed any signs of raising funds. 3) No one believed that he wouldn't be able to raise funds. It was pretty obvious he could. The question was whether he was interested in, considering he had taken no steps to raise the funds and it was fairly obvious that it would require him to sell/pledge Tesla shares hurting the TSLA stock price, and it wasn't clear he would want to do that.
  - nickstinemates 4y ago
    We must have read different 900+ comment threads on Hacker News and follow different people on Twitter.
    - MrMan 4y ago
      Do you have any actual points to make besides calling out strawman for being insufficiently correct? Maybe you could recite some of Musks achievements or otherwise entertain us
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]

danso 4y ago

The people who believe Musk is being a bullshitter are still in the running for being “mostly right” in this situation. A few years ago, Musk got emotional and publicly accused one of his critics of being a “pedo”. He doubled down on this lie when goaded on Twitter. And when he realized he had to have some kind of evidence, he in desperation paid $52,000 to a private investigator to dig up anything on his “pedo” critic. The PI turned out to be a scammer and convicted felon: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/elon-musk-hired-felon-james-howard-higgins-dirt-pedo-guy https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/elon-musk-hired... There’s little reason to believe that Musk is a grand genius with plans too smart for the common mind to grasp, rather than just another all-too fallible human.

nickstinemates 4y ago
> There’s little reason to believe that Musk is a grand genius with plans too smart for the common mind to grasp, rather than just another all-too fallible human. Who said this or insinuated it? My only point is people who don't know the man, or his motivation, or what he wants to do are making arguments as if they do. Or putting words in peoples mouths. Or bringing up irrelevant facts that have nothing to do with the purchase of twitter.
encryptluks2 4y ago