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It seems it started a flamewar about sha1 and bcrypt. First: scrypt (http://www.tarsnap.com/scrypt/ http://www.tarsnap.com/scrypt/) is far better than bcrypt.
by yogsototh 15y ago
It seems it started a flamewar about sha1 and bcrypt.
First: scrypt (http://www.tarsnap.com/scrypt/ http://www.tarsnap.com/scrypt/) is far better than bcrypt.
Second here is the general idea behind the scrypt algorithm (from the scrypt slides):
Algorithm ROMix:
Given
a hash function H,
an input B (the user password),
and an integer parameter N (computational hardness),
compute:
 V_i =H^i(B) (0 <= i < N)
and X = H^N(B), then iterate
j ← Integerify(X ) mod N
X ← H (X ⊕ Vj )
N times; and output X.
The function Integerify can be any bijection from {0, 1}^k to {0...2^k −1}.
Theorem:
Under the random oracle model, the class of functions ROMix are sequential memory-hard.
More intuitively,
V_0 = H(B)
V_1 = H(H(B))
...
X = V_N = H(H( ... H(B) ...) )
V_i are filled with pseudo random values.
Then the algorithm access them in pseudo random order.
Which means that is is not only very long to compute but also need a lot of memory.
Now zealot should say _use scrypt_! not bcrypt. And also, even if cryptography is difficult, the idea behind is not so difficult.
- rnicholson 15y ago> First: scrypt (http://www.tarsnap.com/scrypt/ http://www.tarsnap.com/scrypt/) is far better than bcrypt. Is there any independent analysis on scrypt? Only paper on scrypt I've seen comes from Colin. That's not meant as an attack; I'm interested in learning more, but can't find anything else.