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All of these famines are exeprienced in communist countries, but not caused by communism. IIRC those were mostly direct or indirect consequences of wars and eco

All of these famines are exeprienced in communist countries, but not caused by communism. IIRC those were mostly direct or indirect consequences of wars and economic sanctions that capitalist countries lead against communist countries. Compare that with the following famines that were both experienced and caused by capitalism: - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_(Ireland) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_(Ireland) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine_in_India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine_in_India If you look at the full list of famines, you'll find the difference between capitalism and communism astonishing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine

Veen 4y ago
The communist famines were primarily caused by forced collectivization which disrupted the agriculture industry, incompetent centralized administration, and poor economic planning. They were literally caused by communist policies. The Great Potato famine was caused by potato blight and and the Indian Famine was caused by drought.
- dontlaugh 4y ago
  Conveniently, you're ignoring both the periodic environmental famine conditions experienced in both Eastern Europe and China for centuries and the British profit-making policies that caused famine in both Ireland and India.
  - Veen 4y ago
    Discussing this topic with tankies is a waste of time, so I'll just refer you to my previous comments.
    - tut-urut-utut 4y ago
      > Discussing this topic with tankies is a waste of time I had to search for “tankie”. Thanks for introducing a new word for me. For people who don't know what “tankie” is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie However, please keep in mind that not everyone who is not a priori against communism can be classified as hard core Stalinist. One should be able to criticize both systems, and wish a better one, without being labelled from one side as “tankie” and from the other side as “imperialistic capitalistic pig”, or another insult of the day.
      - dontlaugh 4y ago
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- wbsss4412 4y ago
  The Russian famine in the early 1920s was also caused by crop failures in the way that the potato famine was caused by blight. In both cases, government actions were what drove crop failures to become widespread famines.

Veen 4y ago

The communist famines were primarily caused by forced collectivization which disrupted the agriculture industry, incompetent centralized administration, and poor economic planning. They were literally caused by communist policies. The Great Potato famine was caused by potato blight and and the Indian Famine was caused by drought.

dontlaugh 4y ago
Conveniently, you're ignoring both the periodic environmental famine conditions experienced in both Eastern Europe and China for centuries and the British profit-making policies that caused famine in both Ireland and India.
- Veen 4y ago
  Discussing this topic with tankies is a waste of time, so I'll just refer you to my previous comments.
  - tut-urut-utut 4y ago
    > Discussing this topic with tankies is a waste of time I had to search for “tankie”. Thanks for introducing a new word for me. For people who don't know what “tankie” is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie However, please keep in mind that not everyone who is not a priori against communism can be classified as hard core Stalinist. One should be able to criticize both systems, and wish a better one, without being labelled from one side as “tankie” and from the other side as “imperialistic capitalistic pig”, or another insult of the day.
    - dontlaugh 4y ago
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wbsss4412 4y ago
The Russian famine in the early 1920s was also caused by crop failures in the way that the potato famine was caused by blight. In both cases, government actions were what drove crop failures to become widespread famines.