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Yes, playing the lottery is easy. Winning the lottery, not so much. Canada does not currently have a viable immigration model for non-dependents immigration. T

by heffer 4y ago

Yes, playing the lottery is easy. Winning the lottery, not so much. Canada does not currently have a viable immigration model for non-dependents immigration. The Parents-Grandparents stream takes 30,000 applications a year through a lottery system because demand is so high. So it could take many years before you get to bring your parents.

LegitShady 4y ago
Canada has social healthcare that is already stretched to its limits in many areas. I'm not sure they can afford to take in every relative who wants to come but has never paid into healthcare.
- mrgill 4y ago
  That's easy, make it so that unlimited amounts of parents can come if the child is a citizen, but they'll have to buy their own insurance.
  - LegitShady 4y ago
    It's not easy, because capacity is an issue, not just payment. Similarly housing, similarly other services. Canada already has massive immigration relative to its population - the built environment and capacity for services hasn't increased relative to that immigration. It doesn't matter what insurance you have when there aren't enough surgeons, 130+ days wait for an MRI, etc etc. Allowing "unlimited" parents per immigrant is essentially tripling immigration on its own. Maybe the answer isn't "limitless immigration" when the problem is lack of housing, capacity, and services. In my opinion canada's immigration policies are already unsustainable and have cost a huge portion of the canadian population in quality of life.
    - triceratops 4y ago
      > when there aren't enough surgeons, 130+ days wait for an MRI But why, though? Aren't there any surgeons among the immigrants? Don't immigrants generate tax revenues to pay for new infra?
      - LegitShady 4y ago
        >but why, though? Aren't there any surgeons among the immigrants? because they can pick up and move to the states and double or triple their income, so the surgeons have to be people who expressly wish to stay in canada over increase their income. > Don't immigrants generate tax revenues to pay for new infra? that has not been the case so far. Housing, healthcare, etc are in crisis in canada. meanwhile the government is allowing fast food restaurants to import temporary workers.

by heffer 4y ago

LegitShady 4y ago

Canada has social healthcare that is already stretched to its limits in many areas. I'm not sure they can afford to take in every relative who wants to come but has never paid into healthcare.

mrgill 4y ago
That's easy, make it so that unlimited amounts of parents can come if the child is a citizen, but they'll have to buy their own insurance.
- LegitShady 4y ago
  It's not easy, because capacity is an issue, not just payment. Similarly housing, similarly other services. Canada already has massive immigration relative to its population - the built environment and capacity for services hasn't increased relative to that immigration. It doesn't matter what insurance you have when there aren't enough surgeons, 130+ days wait for an MRI, etc etc. Allowing "unlimited" parents per immigrant is essentially tripling immigration on its own. Maybe the answer isn't "limitless immigration" when the problem is lack of housing, capacity, and services. In my opinion canada's immigration policies are already unsustainable and have cost a huge portion of the canadian population in quality of life.
  - triceratops 4y ago
    > when there aren't enough surgeons, 130+ days wait for an MRI But why, though? Aren't there any surgeons among the immigrants? Don't immigrants generate tax revenues to pay for new infra?
    - LegitShady 4y ago
      >but why, though? Aren't there any surgeons among the immigrants? because they can pick up and move to the states and double or triple their income, so the surgeons have to be people who expressly wish to stay in canada over increase their income. > Don't immigrants generate tax revenues to pay for new infra? that has not been the case so far. Housing, healthcare, etc are in crisis in canada. meanwhile the government is allowing fast food restaurants to import temporary workers.