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Not many Toronto datapoints on levels.fyi for Microsoft, but it looks like their median Canadian comp is $146k cad for data points in the last year. Which is p

Not many Toronto datapoints on levels.fyi for Microsoft, but it looks like their median Canadian comp is $146k cad for data points in the last year. Which is probably enough to afford living in Toronto. The higher end (90th percentile) is $262k cad, which is definitely enough. However, that is lower than you’d probably get in Redmond, though I’m not sure by how much exactly.

mlex 4y ago
That p90 number (equivalent to 204k USD) looks like some typical SDE2 TCs in Redmond: https://www.levels.fyi/company/Microsoft/salaries/Software-Engineer/SDE-II/ https://www.levels.fyi/company/Microsoft/salaries/Software-E...
- google234123 4y ago
  Or less than a junior L3 in the bay area at google.
  - 29athrowaway 4y ago
    And what does that salary get you in the bay area? Living in a tiny apartment with a homeless guy outside. No thanks.
    - soperj 4y ago
      Toronto and Vancouver has basically the equivalent priced real estate as the Bay Area.
      - 29athrowaway 4y ago
        If there's a large earthquake, what would happen to SF? - old buildings that do not comply with seismic code because codes don't apply retroactively - new buildings built on the liquefaction zone - Millenium tower already has defects even without earthquakes - some buildings are already sinking Everything is going to get rekt. SF is a huge house of cards about to collapse. But they will probably have it better than the guys at Hayward, CA... a town built on top of the Hayward fault line. Why would you do that? That's not to mention the worsening crime rates, even at the more suburban places. Oh, and the traffic, having nowhere to park your car, having to spend 1 hour in traffic to move 1 mile at peak hours, and seeing the city collapse each time a major conference takes place. And public transport is full of hallucination-haunted junkies that get randomly triggered. Sounds like exactly the right place to live, form a family and spend all my money. Or maybe not.
    - google234123 4y ago
      It lets you afford a million+ dollar house after a few years?
      - 29athrowaway 4y ago
        Yeah sure. And then you will get mugged on your own driveway* because crime rates do not care about how expensive your home is. *: https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7news.com/amp/asian-man-robbed-concord-walnut-creek-family/10529027/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7news.com/amp/asian-man-robb...

mlex 4y ago

That p90 number (equivalent to 204k USD) looks like some typical SDE2 TCs in Redmond: https://www.levels.fyi/company/Microsoft/salaries/Software-Engineer/SDE-II/ https://www.levels.fyi/company/Microsoft/salaries/Software-E...

google234123 4y ago
Or less than a junior L3 in the bay area at google.
- 29athrowaway 4y ago
  And what does that salary get you in the bay area? Living in a tiny apartment with a homeless guy outside. No thanks.
  - soperj 4y ago
    Toronto and Vancouver has basically the equivalent priced real estate as the Bay Area.
    - 29athrowaway 4y ago
      If there's a large earthquake, what would happen to SF? - old buildings that do not comply with seismic code because codes don't apply retroactively - new buildings built on the liquefaction zone - Millenium tower already has defects even without earthquakes - some buildings are already sinking Everything is going to get rekt. SF is a huge house of cards about to collapse. But they will probably have it better than the guys at Hayward, CA... a town built on top of the Hayward fault line. Why would you do that? That's not to mention the worsening crime rates, even at the more suburban places. Oh, and the traffic, having nowhere to park your car, having to spend 1 hour in traffic to move 1 mile at peak hours, and seeing the city collapse each time a major conference takes place. And public transport is full of hallucination-haunted junkies that get randomly triggered. Sounds like exactly the right place to live, form a family and spend all my money. Or maybe not.
  - google234123 4y ago
    It lets you afford a million+ dollar house after a few years?
    - 29athrowaway 4y ago
      Yeah sure. And then you will get mugged on your own driveway* because crime rates do not care about how expensive your home is. *: https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7news.com/amp/asian-man-robbed-concord-walnut-creek-family/10529027/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7news.com/amp/asian-man-robb...