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The irony of the CEO of twitter presenting information supposed to add nuance and context to a debate… using a twitter thread where every paragraph is an open i

The irony of the CEO of twitter presenting information supposed to add nuance and context to a debate… using a twitter thread where every paragraph is an open invitation to misinterpretation.

antisthenes 4y ago
The twitter format is not conducive of a nuanced data-based discussion and never will be, by design. Nor is there anything in that thread by CEO that shows us he has no incentive to lie and hide behind "personal data not accessible to outsiders". But trust us, they're human! You just can't check! It's mind-blowing how anyone can be naive enough to believe that, without some sort of personal incentive (e.g. Twitter employee or some dir-level whose bonus depends on the buyout)
- ImPostingOnHN 4y ago
  I'd say his word is more convincing than the exact opposite position as similarly-baselessly-claimed claimed by Elon, who similarly has a conflict of interest incentivizing him to be dishonest, as well as a vindictive personality driving him towards the same
  - antisthenes 4y ago
    I dunno, is it a CEO's duty to conceal certain company factors that could have a negative influence on the shareholders? In other words, is it OK to straight up lie to fulfill the fiduciary duty? If the answer is yes, then the CEO is less believable.
    - HWR_14 4y ago
      AFAIK, the duty of the CEO to lie for the shareholders is far outweighed by the duty of the CEO to not lie to the shareholders via SEC filing (or earnings calls, etc)
Jcowell 4y ago
How is this different than me quoting only bits of a blog post? You can say that you can just reply with the whole quote , but I can just easily quote tweet reply the tweet that gives context. I feel fact the quote tweet is even guaranteed to be unedited and linked to the rest of the conversation.
- joshvince 4y ago
  The difference is that a blog post is presented as a whole, in long form. The author can construct context to have a debate informed by things harder to put into an individual tweet. Long form communication is where nuance lives. Twitter actively seeks to reduce and diminish that because any single tweet has to summarise its ideas in a single character-limited block. I personally think it’s a net negative for the world
  - joshvince 4y ago
    Ironically we have had this discussion in tweet sized chunks. Guess I’m a hypocrite, eh.

The irony of the CEO of twitter presenting information supposed to add nuance and context to a debate… using a twitter thread where every paragraph is an open invitation to misinterpretation.

antisthenes 4y ago

The twitter format is not conducive of a nuanced data-based discussion and never will be, by design. Nor is there anything in that thread by CEO that shows us he has no incentive to lie and hide behind "personal data not accessible to outsiders". But trust us, they're human! You just can't check! It's mind-blowing how anyone can be naive enough to believe that, without some sort of personal incentive (e.g. Twitter employee or some dir-level whose bonus depends on the buyout)

ImPostingOnHN 4y ago
I'd say his word is more convincing than the exact opposite position as similarly-baselessly-claimed claimed by Elon, who similarly has a conflict of interest incentivizing him to be dishonest, as well as a vindictive personality driving him towards the same
- antisthenes 4y ago
  I dunno, is it a CEO's duty to conceal certain company factors that could have a negative influence on the shareholders? In other words, is it OK to straight up lie to fulfill the fiduciary duty? If the answer is yes, then the CEO is less believable.
  - HWR_14 4y ago
    AFAIK, the duty of the CEO to lie for the shareholders is far outweighed by the duty of the CEO to not lie to the shareholders via SEC filing (or earnings calls, etc)

Jcowell 4y ago

How is this different than me quoting only bits of a blog post? You can say that you can just reply with the whole quote , but I can just easily quote tweet reply the tweet that gives context. I feel fact the quote tweet is even guaranteed to be unedited and linked to the rest of the conversation.

joshvince 4y ago
The difference is that a blog post is presented as a whole, in long form. The author can construct context to have a debate informed by things harder to put into an individual tweet. Long form communication is where nuance lives. Twitter actively seeks to reduce and diminish that because any single tweet has to summarise its ideas in a single character-limited block. I personally think it’s a net negative for the world
- joshvince 4y ago
  Ironically we have had this discussion in tweet sized chunks. Guess I’m a hypocrite, eh.