> effectively increasing US security and lowering European one Not really, there were still missiles in Italy and maybe Germany? It made little real difference

> effectively increasing US security and lowering European one Not really, there were still missiles in Italy and maybe Germany? It made little real difference to European security. > Zelensky, Johnson and Biden get isolated by Europeans, and countries like Italy (I hope) chose to get out of NATO Russia invading Ukraine, showing that European peace and security aren't as guaranteed and certain as most people thought is only bringing NATO and more specifically European NATO members together. Italy isn't on the frontlines, but is also impacted by Putin's idiocy. Why would it abandon one of it's two security guarantees (EU being the other one) now? Before the invasion, EU countries moving to a NATO independent military cooperation and defense pact would have made great sense ( and certain EU leaders were pushing for it), but now? No way.