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Says who? Reports on the peace deal were that Ukraine had agreed to this point. Also “We might get invaded/bombed in the future” is a strictly better outcome th

Says who? Reports on the peace deal were that Ukraine had agreed to this point. Also “We might get invaded/bombed in the future” is a strictly better outcome than “we are being bombed right now”

KptMarchewa 4y ago
Depends on what perspectives you have. Before Germany took Sudetenland, Czechoslovakia had chance to defend. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czechoslovak_border_fortifications https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czechoslovak_border_fortificat...
tuukkah 4y ago
So instead of affirming your sovereignity and your ties to the West, you would cut your ties? I think it has proven useful to have those ties when the invasion is on. If it doesn't come to an invasion, Russia kills you slowly with a strong embrace.
- lazyjones 4y ago
  Being neutral means having ties with everyone, not just the West. Austria is a good example for this, we decided to be neutral and were between East Bloc and West during the cold war and all related tensions, yet never worried due to strict neutrality and good relations with both sides.
  - tuukkah 4y ago
    Finland and Sweden did the same, until now. Easy for Austria to keep it that way now that they are a member of EU and completely surrounded by NATO countries. And in Ukraine we see that this strategy does not work when your neighbor is murderous.
KennyBlanken 4y ago
Yeah, it's a bit strange to claim this. NATO has never taken membership from a country actively involved in conflict and Ukraine had been left out of NATO specifically to not inflame Russia. Putin is obsessed with reunification and anything that doesn't give him that, he isn't interested in. He'd roll tanks right up to the Berlin wall if he thought he could.