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So what's China waiting for (have 4 million deaths been averted by zero covid, or have they been delayed?). Is it still 4 million or not anymore? I guess they

So what's China waiting for (have 4 million deaths been averted by zero covid, or have they been delayed?). Is it still 4 million or not anymore? I guess they are delayed and will be averted in future? Maybe there will be further tech shift, or a healthcare surge? I suppose what I am trying to express is that zero covid is not a viable long-term strategy, it's a thing you do to buy time for your actual strategy, whatever that is.

whimsicalism 4y ago
China has done an awful job vaccinating their population - this is the real story that is being undercovered by the media, rather than trying to convince me that somehow their massive lockdown success is somehow actually a failure.
- xyzzy123 4y ago
  Fair call.
- spookthesunset 4y ago
  I suppose if you consider robbing people of their supposedly inalienable human rights is a “success”, then sure it’s a “success”. But believe it or not there are vastly more problems in the world than an extremely myopic focus on exactly one single respiratory virus to the literal exclusion of everything else including human rights. Serious I cannot get over how many people think this kind of response is ever justified. It is incredibly myopic thinking.
- pengaru 4y ago
  > China has done an awful job vaccinating their population - this is the real story that is being undercovered by the media According to [0] they've got 1,287,195,000 fully vaccinated, how is that an awful job? AIUI their failing is more along the lines of not using the mrna vaccines, but despite having a huge population they seem to have put jabs in most arms. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccination_in_mainland_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccination_in_mainla...
  - whimsicalism 4y ago
    Because unlike in the West, their coverage gaps are highest among the elderly. https://archive.ph/Ww9o3/a0fe4ca441387dca37b8beebe30ac2605019d2de.png https://archive.ph/Ww9o3/a0fe4ca441387dca37b8beebe30ac260501...

whimsicalism 4y ago

China has done an awful job vaccinating their population - this is the real story that is being undercovered by the media, rather than trying to convince me that somehow their massive lockdown success is somehow actually a failure.

xyzzy123 4y ago
Fair call.
spookthesunset 4y ago
I suppose if you consider robbing people of their supposedly inalienable human rights is a “success”, then sure it’s a “success”. But believe it or not there are vastly more problems in the world than an extremely myopic focus on exactly one single respiratory virus to the literal exclusion of everything else including human rights. Serious I cannot get over how many people think this kind of response is ever justified. It is incredibly myopic thinking.
pengaru 4y ago
> China has done an awful job vaccinating their population - this is the real story that is being undercovered by the media According to [0] they've got 1,287,195,000 fully vaccinated, how is that an awful job? AIUI their failing is more along the lines of not using the mrna vaccines, but despite having a huge population they seem to have put jabs in most arms. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccination_in_mainland_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccination_in_mainla...
- whimsicalism 4y ago
  Because unlike in the West, their coverage gaps are highest among the elderly. https://archive.ph/Ww9o3/a0fe4ca441387dca37b8beebe30ac2605019d2de.png https://archive.ph/Ww9o3/a0fe4ca441387dca37b8beebe30ac260501...