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Honest question: Is there something specific about TikTok technology/usage pattern paving the way for distopy acceptance or it's just the same concept of facebo

Honest question: Is there something specific about TikTok technology/usage pattern paving the way for distopy acceptance or it's just the same concept of facebook/instagram/Twitter but with a younger audience?

sergiomattei 4y ago
It’s just a low-tier generalization about newer generation. Nothing to analyze here. There is nothing about TikTok that makes my generation mindless Web3 drones.
- danieldevries 4y ago
  Agreed. Just lazy analytics by using buzzwords. The TikTok generation... I'm clearly late to the party as a Millennial.
- tomc1985 4y ago
  OK Zoomer. OF COURSE you're going to deny the generalization and blame the accuser. That's generational warfare 101. Doesn't make their thoughts any less valid. There are clear differences between the Facebook demo and the Tiktok demo. I am not smart enough to be able to articulate them but they are there.
ewzimm 4y ago
I have noticed a cultural difference between different generations of social networks. With Facebook, people usually sought out people and groups that they wanted to connect with and complained about being algorithmically profiled for ads but accepted it as part of the business model. With TikTok, people usually express how much they love the algorithm that finds things that they like.
- dwaite 4y ago
  > With Facebook, people usually sought out people and groups that they wanted to connect with and complained about being algorithmically profiled for ads but accepted it as part of the business model. Google's success with ads is that they were able to trigger them as part of user action. Paid search results are hypothetically helpful to some people. Contextual ads on a site may actually provide value if they are on-topic. Facebook ads mostly target people. They don't really provide any in-context value, they are pure commercials - spooky commercials that know what is going on in your life, although the ability to utilize this information is often laughably bad. Twitter often has the same problems. Ads interspersed within conversations just aren't helpful or desired.
rvz 4y ago
You will hear testimonials of most TikTok users addicted to and sniffing the digital crack / cocaine on the platform praising the super dystopian algorithm that operates on their viewing activity and collects minute data-points to keep them glued and addicted to the platform and screen time. Then you will get something like this [0], and folks [1] on the kool-aid with nonsensical claims like 'TikTok is the best thing to have happened to the Internet' at the height of the euphoria. In reality, it is both the same concepts of the other social networks but much worse and [0] has shown that its algorithm was more dystopian than previously thought. Therefore, it is the nadir of social media. [0] https://www.nrk.no/osloogviken/xl/tiktok-doesn_t-show-the-war-in-ukraine-to-russian-users-1.15921522 https://www.nrk.no/osloogviken/xl/tiktok-doesn_t-show-the-wa... [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28135484 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28135484
axg11 4y ago
It's strange that people lump these four together. There's a marked difference between Facebook/Instagram (friends first, sharing encouraged by all users) vs. Twitter/TikTok (mainly acting as a broadcast medium with a long tail).

sergiomattei 4y ago

It’s just a low-tier generalization about newer generation. Nothing to analyze here. There is nothing about TikTok that makes my generation mindless Web3 drones.

danieldevries 4y ago
Agreed. Just lazy analytics by using buzzwords. The TikTok generation... I'm clearly late to the party as a Millennial.
tomc1985 4y ago
OK Zoomer. OF COURSE you're going to deny the generalization and blame the accuser. That's generational warfare 101. Doesn't make their thoughts any less valid. There are clear differences between the Facebook demo and the Tiktok demo. I am not smart enough to be able to articulate them but they are there.

ewzimm 4y ago

I have noticed a cultural difference between different generations of social networks. With Facebook, people usually sought out people and groups that they wanted to connect with and complained about being algorithmically profiled for ads but accepted it as part of the business model. With TikTok, people usually express how much they love the algorithm that finds things that they like.

dwaite 4y ago
> With Facebook, people usually sought out people and groups that they wanted to connect with and complained about being algorithmically profiled for ads but accepted it as part of the business model. Google's success with ads is that they were able to trigger them as part of user action. Paid search results are hypothetically helpful to some people. Contextual ads on a site may actually provide value if they are on-topic. Facebook ads mostly target people. They don't really provide any in-context value, they are pure commercials - spooky commercials that know what is going on in your life, although the ability to utilize this information is often laughably bad. Twitter often has the same problems. Ads interspersed within conversations just aren't helpful or desired.

rvz 4y ago

You will hear testimonials of most TikTok users addicted to and sniffing the digital crack / cocaine on the platform praising the super dystopian algorithm that operates on their viewing activity and collects minute data-points to keep them glued and addicted to the platform and screen time. Then you will get something like this [0], and folks [1] on the kool-aid with nonsensical claims like 'TikTok is the best thing to have happened to the Internet' at the height of the euphoria. In reality, it is both the same concepts of the other social networks but much worse and [0] has shown that its algorithm was more dystopian than previously thought. Therefore, it is the nadir of social media. [0] https://www.nrk.no/osloogviken/xl/tiktok-doesn_t-show-the-war-in-ukraine-to-russian-users-1.15921522 https://www.nrk.no/osloogviken/xl/tiktok-doesn_t-show-the-wa... [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28135484 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28135484

axg11 4y ago

It's strange that people lump these four together. There's a marked difference between Facebook/Instagram (friends first, sharing encouraged by all users) vs. Twitter/TikTok (mainly acting as a broadcast medium with a long tail).