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I mentioned the same for me during the kagi search engine pricing discussions. Slight overpaying is fine, but paying per search would instantly create an illog

I mentioned the same for me during the kagi search engine pricing discussions. Slight overpaying is fine, but paying per search would instantly create an illogical chilling effect for me.

Closi 4y ago
Totally agree - I think the main issue with Kagi is that although they have clearly built out the service and are offering it for free at the moment, their premise that people will actually micropay for a search hasn't been tested yet. It's easy to get users if you offer a paid service for free, but much more difficult to get people to pay for it. (They have done surveys where people have said they would pay, but this is different to actually putting their credit card in and putting their money where their mouths are!)
- Semaphor 4y ago
  To be fair, me and a bunch of other people are wondering why we still can’t pay ;) I’m perfectly happy with it and what I’d get for my $10-$20.
  - Closi 4y ago
    Hehe, I don't doubt that you will pay :) I just also think there will be a non-zero proportion of people who absolutely promise and intend to pay, then won't put their credit card details in. I also think there is a non-zero proportion of people who will search differently/less when every search costs them money!
  - ajmurmann 4y ago
    I'm getting tired of all these monthly subscriptions that cost me $7-20 no matter of usage. Premium podcasts feet's, video streaming, Spotify. It's becoming a very real cost and mentally I'm bucketing it all together. Are others not getting subscription fatigue? Edit: similarity, when I'm building a side project now O avoid everything with a fixed cost as much as possible. $5/month for a relational DB? nope, let's see how I can store data and only pay for storage and access.
    - Semaphor 4y ago
      Your other option for Kagi will be to pay-per-use (with pre-paid credits). I don’t have that many subscriptions, so I’m not getting any fatigue ;)
akvadrako 4y ago
I hope they don't listen to you, because paying per use is the best option and you can just get over it. If they have a monthly fee I'll hesitate since if I reduce my usage for a unspecified while I'll never know if I should cancel it or not. It requires being able to predict the future, which is a cognitive cost I can't overcome.
- Semaphor 4y ago
  Don’t worry, there are both camps in the discord. So there’ll probably be pre-paid credits as well as subscriptions.

I mentioned the same for me during the kagi search engine pricing discussions. Slight overpaying is fine, but paying per search would instantly create an illogical chilling effect for me.

Closi 4y ago

Totally agree - I think the main issue with Kagi is that although they have clearly built out the service and are offering it for free at the moment, their premise that people will actually micropay for a search hasn't been tested yet. It's easy to get users if you offer a paid service for free, but much more difficult to get people to pay for it. (They have done surveys where people have said they would pay, but this is different to actually putting their credit card in and putting their money where their mouths are!)

Semaphor 4y ago
To be fair, me and a bunch of other people are wondering why we still can’t pay ;) I’m perfectly happy with it and what I’d get for my $10-$20.
- Closi 4y ago
  Hehe, I don't doubt that you will pay :) I just also think there will be a non-zero proportion of people who absolutely promise and intend to pay, then won't put their credit card details in. I also think there is a non-zero proportion of people who will search differently/less when every search costs them money!
- ajmurmann 4y ago
  I'm getting tired of all these monthly subscriptions that cost me $7-20 no matter of usage. Premium podcasts feet's, video streaming, Spotify. It's becoming a very real cost and mentally I'm bucketing it all together. Are others not getting subscription fatigue? Edit: similarity, when I'm building a side project now O avoid everything with a fixed cost as much as possible. $5/month for a relational DB? nope, let's see how I can store data and only pay for storage and access.
  - Semaphor 4y ago
    Your other option for Kagi will be to pay-per-use (with pre-paid credits). I don’t have that many subscriptions, so I’m not getting any fatigue ;)

akvadrako 4y ago

I hope they don't listen to you, because paying per use is the best option and you can just get over it. If they have a monthly fee I'll hesitate since if I reduce my usage for a unspecified while I'll never know if I should cancel it or not. It requires being able to predict the future, which is a cognitive cost I can't overcome.

Semaphor 4y ago
Don’t worry, there are both camps in the discord. So there’ll probably be pre-paid credits as well as subscriptions.