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> Like you could say the same about drug lords and mafia bosses. Drug lords and mafia bosses are literally overseeing murders on a regular basis. The business

> Like you could say the same about drug lords and mafia bosses. Drug lords and mafia bosses are literally overseeing murders on a regular basis. The business is inherently shady. I think there's a difference between not wanting to finance someone's welfare and breaking their kneecaps or killing them if they're late on a payment.

shadowgovt 4y ago
It's the difference in pulling the lever vs. letting the trolley roll towards the victims while your hand is on the lever. The philosophical jury's out on whether it's a difference with meaning, but we seem to feel in our guts it is. Our guts are products of evolution, not reason.
softcactus 4y ago
Every industry murders people. Car companies have risk analysts determine how many people have to die before it's worth it to issue a recall. Food companies cause diabetes and heart disease in an effort to make food more addictive to increase their margins. The difference is that the ratio of profit/human life is lower in criminal industries, more people die for less profit. The distinction between greed and evil is pointless. Evil isn't a cartoon villain scheming to harm others, evil is boring and banal and happens every day. Evil is the negative externalities of decisions that are made for some greater purpose whether it's national security, profit, or greater benefit to society.
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ClumsyPilot 4y ago
What finance of welfare? The post above talks about agriculture industry exploiting vulnerable people without legal status for hard labour and without access to healrhcare. They quote literally do cause people to die for profit. It the other way round -thje ageicuulture industry steals from these people - it steals their health and future earning. If a business makes money by causing death, it is basically pillaging. Its like owning serfs or debt bondage

shadowgovt 4y ago

It's the difference in pulling the lever vs. letting the trolley roll towards the victims while your hand is on the lever. The philosophical jury's out on whether it's a difference with meaning, but we seem to feel in our guts it is. Our guts are products of evolution, not reason.

softcactus 4y ago

Every industry murders people. Car companies have risk analysts determine how many people have to die before it's worth it to issue a recall. Food companies cause diabetes and heart disease in an effort to make food more addictive to increase their margins. The difference is that the ratio of profit/human life is lower in criminal industries, more people die for less profit. The distinction between greed and evil is pointless. Evil isn't a cartoon villain scheming to harm others, evil is boring and banal and happens every day. Evil is the negative externalities of decisions that are made for some greater purpose whether it's national security, profit, or greater benefit to society.

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ClumsyPilot 4y ago

What finance of welfare? The post above talks about agriculture industry exploiting vulnerable people without legal status for hard labour and without access to healrhcare. They quote literally do cause people to die for profit. It the other way round -thje ageicuulture industry steals from these people - it steals their health and future earning. If a business makes money by causing death, it is basically pillaging. Its like owning serfs or debt bondage