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Would Indian want to work in China instead? I rest my case. The thing is, that's the price you pay if you have to migrate to do well. I think India is changing

Would Indian want to work in China instead? I rest my case. The thing is, that's the price you pay if you have to migrate to do well. I think India is changing, more Indian talent should focus their energy on making their country better. I get a feeling that "Indians" is just a nation concept, it's actually made up of many ethnic groups. It's like Korea and Japan, and China being one country. That's India. If India were to split up then it might be better for the country.

baybal2 4y ago
throwaway_1928 4y ago
> I get a feeling that "Indians" is just a nation concept, it's actually made up of many ethnic groups. It's like Korea and Japan, and China being one country. That's India. If India were to split up then it might be better for the country. This comment is offensive.
- ClumsyPilot 4y ago
  And is flauting ignorance with pride It is also bizzare coming an Amecian with their crazy polarisation - Like how well would it go down if I write something along the lines of: Shooting every week, what has to happen for them to understand that the incencious bible belt does not belong in one country with the woke multicultural coastal elites worshipping a geniatric leader. Each side can finally live in it's own little hell and we'll see how it turns out /s
  - throwaway_1928 4y ago
    I agree the original commenter is ignorant but I don't believe that he is American.
    - ClumsyPilot 4y ago
      yeah I probably missed the mark there. Seems to have a history of badly intended comments though
  - rayiner 4y ago
    Americans wouldn’t find that offensive. At least a third would agree with you: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/10/06/americans-national-divorse-theyre-wrong-515443 https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/10/06/americans-... See also: https://davereaboi.substack.com/p/national-divorce-is-expensive-but https://davereaboi.substack.com/p/national-divorce-is-expens...
- yskm24 4y ago
  What's offensive about it?
ClumsyPilot 4y ago
> The thing is, that's the price you pay if you have to migrate to do well You pay in suffering? This is very daft and capricious. If the foreigners paid extra taxes, at least you could benefit somehow, but what do you get out of someone's precarious immigration status? You clearly had the privilidge of never having to deal with imigration authorities. I had my visa denied because my bank has provided a statement that wasn't printed in the way the imigration authority prefferred it. If you have a family of four, over 5years visas and lawyers will cost more than a downpayment on a house. If you ever make the tiniest mistake, your multi-year 'timer' on residency could lapse and you have to start all over again. I would never move to a country without a clear and simple path to permanent residency. I am surprised anyone does - the world is a big place, there are coutries besides China and US.
- rayiner 4y ago
  > I would never move to a country without a clear and simple path to permanent residency. Much of my family left Bangladesh and ended up in Canada and Australia rather than the US. I’m not sure how it’ll work out for Canada and Australia in the long run but it’s clearly better from the immigrants’ perspective.
- masonic 4y ago
  >I would never move to a country without a clear and simple path to permanent residency. If you place the USA in that category, then why would you care about this article in the first place since you would already have ruled out the USA?
skirmish 4y ago
Based on your username, I assume you would be personally offended if I applied the same logic to China. "Chinese" is actually made up of many ethnic groups, not everybody is Han majority. It's like India and Pakistan, and Nepal being one country. That's China. If China were to split up then it might be better for the country. What is your reaction?
- cuteboy19 4y ago
  The relationship is more like that of British India and Britain. Tibet is a colonial subject of Beijing
- yskm24 4y ago
  Not everyone has a thin skin. People who wear nationalism on their sleeves get offended by such comments.
  - throwaway_1928 4y ago
opportune 4y ago
I don't understand your comment. Why should an individual Indian person have a worse immigration experience to the US than an individual from any other country? That has nothing to do with India being a big diverse country. Yes, people from India continue to work in the US on H1B despite how hard it is to get permanent residency. That's because there are a lot of reasons to prefer life in the US over India. Anyway, I'm commenting more on how you're treated after you're allowed to move to the US for work. The Green Card is for graduating from a temporary work authorization to a permanent resident status (plus opens the possibility for becoming a citizen). That's different from the number of people from a country that are given temporary work authorization.
actuator 4y ago
> I get a feeling that "Indians" is just a nation concept, it's actually made up of many ethnic groups. It's like Korea and Japan, and China being one country. Funnily enough India being a country is exactly like the idea of China being a country. The difference between the two nations is China having one of their golden periods in the recent past which allowed land territory to be mostly unified under common rule, pre civil war. Post PRC formation, there has been much more effort to homogenize the identity of a Chinese person. Also, the idea of China and Japan being one country is more similar to say India and Indonesia being one country just because one of them influenced the culture of the other in the past.

baybal2 4y ago

throwaway_1928 4y ago

> I get a feeling that "Indians" is just a nation concept, it's actually made up of many ethnic groups. It's like Korea and Japan, and China being one country. That's India. If India were to split up then it might be better for the country. This comment is offensive.

ClumsyPilot 4y ago
And is flauting ignorance with pride It is also bizzare coming an Amecian with their crazy polarisation - Like how well would it go down if I write something along the lines of: Shooting every week, what has to happen for them to understand that the incencious bible belt does not belong in one country with the woke multicultural coastal elites worshipping a geniatric leader. Each side can finally live in it's own little hell and we'll see how it turns out /s
- throwaway_1928 4y ago
  I agree the original commenter is ignorant but I don't believe that he is American.
  - ClumsyPilot 4y ago
    yeah I probably missed the mark there. Seems to have a history of badly intended comments though
- rayiner 4y ago
  Americans wouldn’t find that offensive. At least a third would agree with you: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/10/06/americans-national-divorse-theyre-wrong-515443 https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/10/06/americans-... See also: https://davereaboi.substack.com/p/national-divorce-is-expensive-but https://davereaboi.substack.com/p/national-divorce-is-expens...
yskm24 4y ago
What's offensive about it?

ClumsyPilot 4y ago

> The thing is, that's the price you pay if you have to migrate to do well You pay in suffering? This is very daft and capricious. If the foreigners paid extra taxes, at least you could benefit somehow, but what do you get out of someone's precarious immigration status? You clearly had the privilidge of never having to deal with imigration authorities. I had my visa denied because my bank has provided a statement that wasn't printed in the way the imigration authority prefferred it. If you have a family of four, over 5years visas and lawyers will cost more than a downpayment on a house. If you ever make the tiniest mistake, your multi-year 'timer' on residency could lapse and you have to start all over again. I would never move to a country without a clear and simple path to permanent residency. I am surprised anyone does - the world is a big place, there are coutries besides China and US.

rayiner 4y ago
> I would never move to a country without a clear and simple path to permanent residency. Much of my family left Bangladesh and ended up in Canada and Australia rather than the US. I’m not sure how it’ll work out for Canada and Australia in the long run but it’s clearly better from the immigrants’ perspective.
masonic 4y ago
>I would never move to a country without a clear and simple path to permanent residency. If you place the USA in that category, then why would you care about this article in the first place since you would already have ruled out the USA?

skirmish 4y ago

Based on your username, I assume you would be personally offended if I applied the same logic to China. "Chinese" is actually made up of many ethnic groups, not everybody is Han majority. It's like India and Pakistan, and Nepal being one country. That's China. If China were to split up then it might be better for the country. What is your reaction?

cuteboy19 4y ago
The relationship is more like that of British India and Britain. Tibet is a colonial subject of Beijing
yskm24 4y ago
Not everyone has a thin skin. People who wear nationalism on their sleeves get offended by such comments.
- throwaway_1928 4y ago

opportune 4y ago

I don't understand your comment. Why should an individual Indian person have a worse immigration experience to the US than an individual from any other country? That has nothing to do with India being a big diverse country. Yes, people from India continue to work in the US on H1B despite how hard it is to get permanent residency. That's because there are a lot of reasons to prefer life in the US over India. Anyway, I'm commenting more on how you're treated after you're allowed to move to the US for work. The Green Card is for graduating from a temporary work authorization to a permanent resident status (plus opens the possibility for becoming a citizen). That's different from the number of people from a country that are given temporary work authorization.

actuator 4y ago

> I get a feeling that "Indians" is just a nation concept, it's actually made up of many ethnic groups. It's like Korea and Japan, and China being one country. Funnily enough India being a country is exactly like the idea of China being a country. The difference between the two nations is China having one of their golden periods in the recent past which allowed land territory to be mostly unified under common rule, pre civil war. Post PRC formation, there has been much more effort to homogenize the identity of a Chinese person. Also, the idea of China and Japan being one country is more similar to say India and Indonesia being one country just because one of them influenced the culture of the other in the past.