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Well EU is not exactly the worst place in the world...

by qaq 4y ago

sgjohnson 4y ago
My point exactly. The US is completely incapable of competing for non-top-level talent from the EU. Very few Europeans in their right mind would consider going through the meat grinder that the US immigration system is, not least of which is the bad rep the US gets for not having a single payer healthcare system (not that it should have one, it’s just that Europeans also have to justify giving that up) Personally, I love the United States. But the US basically can’t compete for me as an employee, because I’m going to take the offer that makes the most rational sense, which, with as things stand, is extremely unlikely to come from an employer in the US.
- qaq 4y ago
  It doesn't really deprive US companies of anything since all major ones have EU presence. Does deprive US of tax revenue though
  - sgjohnson 4y ago
    It does deprive the US companies that don’t have EU presence from access to a major talent pool.
    - qaq 4y ago
      In IT space most major ones do though.
- thoms_a 4y ago
  Why not work remotely? I can't see any benefits to living in the USA. I assume you already have experience living here, and for the life of me cannot fathom why anyone would choose the USA over most of Europe. I could list all of the benefits of Europe, but I'm sure you know them as a resident. The USA is a very strange and highly dysfunctional (healthcare, social strife, violence, etc.) country. Most predictions for the future of the US are not optimistic, and there are good reasons for this.
  - sgjohnson 4y ago
    > and for the life of me cannot fathom why anyone would choose the USA over most of Europe. Because I'm weird like that. I don't care about my "free" healthcare, because what you can get for free either has an extremely long wait times or is absolutely sub-par. I've never had "free" healthcare nor in the UK (except for that one time that made me go fully private), nor in my home country. I'm aware that it'd be more expensive in the US. I'm also a gun enthusiast, having my hobby in the EU is almost getting more difficult by the day, and I'm from a EU country that has relatively lax gun laws (when compared to other EU countries) I haven't lived in the US, but I've spent a lot of time there.
  - whimsicalism 4y ago
    > Why not work remotely? I can't see any benefits to living in the USA. Pay? Unless you work in Switzerland you're not going to get anything close to what you can get on the US west coast.

Well EU is not exactly the worst place in the world...

by qaq 4y ago

Well EU is not exactly the worst place in the world...

My point exactly. The US is completely incapable of competing for non-top-level talent from the EU. Very few Europeans in their right mind would consider going through the meat grinder that the US immigration system is, not least of which is the bad rep the US gets for not having a single payer healthcare system (not that it should have one, it’s just that Europeans also have to justify giving that up) Personally, I love the United States. But the US basically can’t compete for me as an employee, because I’m going to take the offer that makes the most rational sense, which, with as things stand, is extremely unlikely to come from an employer in the US.

qaq 4y ago
It doesn't really deprive US companies of anything since all major ones have EU presence. Does deprive US of tax revenue though
- sgjohnson 4y ago
  It does deprive the US companies that don’t have EU presence from access to a major talent pool.
  - qaq 4y ago
    In IT space most major ones do though.
thoms_a 4y ago
Why not work remotely? I can't see any benefits to living in the USA. I assume you already have experience living here, and for the life of me cannot fathom why anyone would choose the USA over most of Europe. I could list all of the benefits of Europe, but I'm sure you know them as a resident. The USA is a very strange and highly dysfunctional (healthcare, social strife, violence, etc.) country. Most predictions for the future of the US are not optimistic, and there are good reasons for this.
- sgjohnson 4y ago
  > and for the life of me cannot fathom why anyone would choose the USA over most of Europe. Because I'm weird like that. I don't care about my "free" healthcare, because what you can get for free either has an extremely long wait times or is absolutely sub-par. I've never had "free" healthcare nor in the UK (except for that one time that made me go fully private), nor in my home country. I'm aware that it'd be more expensive in the US. I'm also a gun enthusiast, having my hobby in the EU is almost getting more difficult by the day, and I'm from a EU country that has relatively lax gun laws (when compared to other EU countries) I haven't lived in the US, but I've spent a lot of time there.
- whimsicalism 4y ago
  > Why not work remotely? I can't see any benefits to living in the USA. Pay? Unless you work in Switzerland you're not going to get anything close to what you can get on the US west coast.