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Tell that to my linux desktop which keeps losing track of the 3.5mm jack audio output. I keep having to reset it and fiddle with it every reboot.

grishka 4y ago
- encryptluks2 4y ago
  Audio has worked great on Linux for a while. Pulse Audio improved a lot, and now Pipewire, pretty much everything just works.
  - grishka 4y ago
    As you can see from the parent comment, pretty much everything just works, except when sometimes it doesn't :D
  - pjerem 4y ago
    To be fair, I’m at a point where my audio works better on my personal Linux setup than on my high end Windows Dell laptop at work. Which is the exact opposite as my situation 10-15 years ago. That’s how much Windows transformed itself into a pile of shit during the last decade.
    - worik 4y ago
      I have the same experience Linux <-> MacOS, compared to twenty five years ago Part of it is that Linux got better, part of it Apple got worse. Very odd
capitainenemo 4y ago
Huh. No issues like that at all with any of my Linux desktops and analog jacks (mostly Devuan). They all seem to detect and maintain sources fine. The problem I personally have (if there are any pulseaudio experts out there) is it continually re-enabling ephemeral audio sources like HDMI and bluetooth when they are plugged back in, even if I'd set them to "off" before unplugging them - fortunately since I set the analog to default it usually doesn't mess anything up, but it's a bit untidy, and also annoying for the one USB webcam that has a mic plugged in, where I get a surprise input if I don't watch it. It'd be great to have it persist settings for identically named sources even after they are removed.
midislack 4y ago
Sounds like you pushed the wrong button. If you can't even keep your 3.5mm audio running there's little chance you can work Bluetooth with all its foibles.
- Gigachad 4y ago
  Bluetooth on my desktop works flawlessly while 3.5mm seems to have a dodgy connector and doesn't work well at all.
  - midislack 4y ago
    Sounds like an issue with your hardware's quality and not analog 3.5mm-delivered laptop audio itself.
bornfreddy 4y ago
Same here. I just need to change the audio output to sth. else and back, and it works. Not a big issue for me though.
mschuster91 4y ago
I take a guess that you are using an HDA based sound chip? If yes, have a look at [1]. Can't help you out more than that though, it's been years since I was forced to deal with that crap on Linux. If it's any consolation... I recently came across an ASUS all-in-one PC where it was not enough to install the Realtek Windows HDA driver, no... that would have been too easy. You also needed to install a tiny extra driver that wasn't visible by default on their driver list in the Audio driver section. The entire audio world is utter, utter madness. [1] https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/sound/hd-audio/notes.html#hd-audio-reconfiguration https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/sound/hd-audio/notes....
Gigachad 4y ago
Also had that issue. The 3.5 would work if it was plugged in just the right amount. If it was bumped it would disconnect. In a similar issue, my Nintendo switch controllers often disconnect while in the plugged in mode because the connectors just lose contact sometimes. I wish I could tell it to use them in bluetooth mode and charge only over the connector because bluetooth is pretty much flawless.
nmfisher 4y ago
I have the same issue if I unplug/replug my headphones, only a reboot will fix it.
Schroedingersat 4y ago
The jack works fine. The shitty mux connected to the jack on the other end is the problem there.
exikyut 4y ago
Try removing pulseaudio, if only temporarily. I know pulseaudio is one of the few linux things that actually does things based on headset jack detection. For all I know the driver on your system might be broken, or sending spurious inputs.

grishka 4y ago

encryptluks2 4y ago
Audio has worked great on Linux for a while. Pulse Audio improved a lot, and now Pipewire, pretty much everything just works.
- grishka 4y ago
  As you can see from the parent comment, pretty much everything just works, except when sometimes it doesn't :D
- pjerem 4y ago
  To be fair, I’m at a point where my audio works better on my personal Linux setup than on my high end Windows Dell laptop at work. Which is the exact opposite as my situation 10-15 years ago. That’s how much Windows transformed itself into a pile of shit during the last decade.
  - worik 4y ago
    I have the same experience Linux <-> MacOS, compared to twenty five years ago Part of it is that Linux got better, part of it Apple got worse. Very odd

capitainenemo 4y ago

Huh. No issues like that at all with any of my Linux desktops and analog jacks (mostly Devuan). They all seem to detect and maintain sources fine. The problem I personally have (if there are any pulseaudio experts out there) is it continually re-enabling ephemeral audio sources like HDMI and bluetooth when they are plugged back in, even if I'd set them to "off" before unplugging them - fortunately since I set the analog to default it usually doesn't mess anything up, but it's a bit untidy, and also annoying for the one USB webcam that has a mic plugged in, where I get a surprise input if I don't watch it. It'd be great to have it persist settings for identically named sources even after they are removed.

midislack 4y ago

Sounds like you pushed the wrong button. If you can't even keep your 3.5mm audio running there's little chance you can work Bluetooth with all its foibles.

Gigachad 4y ago
Bluetooth on my desktop works flawlessly while 3.5mm seems to have a dodgy connector and doesn't work well at all.
- midislack 4y ago
  Sounds like an issue with your hardware's quality and not analog 3.5mm-delivered laptop audio itself.

bornfreddy 4y ago

Same here. I just need to change the audio output to sth. else and back, and it works. Not a big issue for me though.

mschuster91 4y ago

I take a guess that you are using an HDA based sound chip? If yes, have a look at [1]. Can't help you out more than that though, it's been years since I was forced to deal with that crap on Linux. If it's any consolation... I recently came across an ASUS all-in-one PC where it was not enough to install the Realtek Windows HDA driver, no... that would have been too easy. You also needed to install a tiny extra driver that wasn't visible by default on their driver list in the Audio driver section. The entire audio world is utter, utter madness. [1] https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/sound/hd-audio/notes.html#hd-audio-reconfiguration https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/sound/hd-audio/notes....

Gigachad 4y ago

Also had that issue. The 3.5 would work if it was plugged in just the right amount. If it was bumped it would disconnect. In a similar issue, my Nintendo switch controllers often disconnect while in the plugged in mode because the connectors just lose contact sometimes. I wish I could tell it to use them in bluetooth mode and charge only over the connector because bluetooth is pretty much flawless.

nmfisher 4y ago

I have the same issue if I unplug/replug my headphones, only a reboot will fix it.

Schroedingersat 4y ago

The jack works fine. The shitty mux connected to the jack on the other end is the problem there.

exikyut 4y ago

Try removing pulseaudio, if only temporarily. I know pulseaudio is one of the few linux things that actually does things based on headset jack detection. For all I know the driver on your system might be broken, or sending spurious inputs.