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It's too bad Denon (DENki ONkyo) didn't buy this Onkyo to make the merger complete :). I'm guessing it wasn't worth it to go downmarket via Onkyo, and it sounds
by boulos 4y ago
It's too bad Denon (DENki ONkyo) didn't buy this Onkyo to make the merger complete :). I'm guessing it wasn't worth it to go downmarket via Onkyo, and it sounds like Onkyo had been accumulating debt for years.
- agumonkey 4y agoI had no idea Denon was related to Onkyo :)
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- bryanlarsen 4y agoDenki Onkyo and Onkyo were two different companies. "On" is an obsolete / traditional pronunciation of "sound" so it's not surprising to find it in many audio company names.
- syockit 4y agoIt's not obsolete. It's the Chinese pronunciation.
- bryanlarsen 4y agoIt was the Chinese pronunciation 600 years ago.
- junar 4y agoThe point is that it's very much alive in the Japanese language. Aside from 音響 (onkyou) itself, there are a multitude of sound-related compounds, such as the even more common 音楽 (ongaku, music). In fact, the very word for Sino-Japanese pronunciation (音読み, on'yomi) uses this as well. Given all this, I would find "obsolete" a misleading descriptor. For that matter, I'd find "traditional" misleading as well, as that could refer to the native Japanese pronunciation (kun'yomi).
- bryanlarsen 4y agoA comparison to how we use the latin derived "audio" in English would probably have worked better than saying obsolete/traditional.
- indigodaddy 4y agoWikipedia states the companies are not related (even though Onkyo is in both names).
- agumonkey 4y agoahh, fun fail
- chrischen 4y agoNot related. Just two companies with similar names. Denon was from Tokyo and Onkyo was from Osaka. I was however surprised to learn that Denon was actually founded by an American in Japan in 1910.
- danachow 4y agoThey aren’t - denon and marantz merged. Poster was just suggesting D&M could have acquired them. But given the overall stagnation in the receiver market I agree it think wouldn’t have benefited anyone. The market segment for Onkyo just doesn’t exist anymore - those that want receivers and a HiFi/HT setup are already well served Denon/Marantz and Yamaha (and the “audiophile” world beyond that is a pretty well saturated market). Sony is still around but that’s clearly not their core business. But the former Onkyo base has been eroded by soundbars and wireless multi speaker setups.
- lynguist 4y agohttps://jisho.org/search/onkyo https://jisho.org/search/onkyo Onkyo means sound. Also: Often when there’s To (actually Tō) in a company’s name, it refers to Tokyo’s To such as in Toshiba.
- Hamuko 4y ago>it refers to Tokyo’s To such as in Toshiba. You mean it refers to "east"?
- lynguist 4y agoNo, it’s an abbreviation of Tokyo. Even if To means East - in a compound To often stands for Tokyo. Same concept in these words: 来日 - Nichi means day, here it stands for Japan. Here’s an article about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_abbreviated_and_contracted_word https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_abbreviated_and_contr... More examples: Todai (To for Tokyo), Nissan (Ni for Nippon)
- 4ggr0 4y agoDoes this apply to Toyota as well?
- selectodude 4y agoNah, that's named after a guy called Toyoda.
- gkanai 4y ago日本 = Japan
- flobosg 4y agoThere’s a missing “s” in that URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_abbreviated_and_contracted_words https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_abbreviated_and_contr...
- rtpg 4y ago
- starky 4y agoDenon is already the downmarket brand for D&M though (Marantz being the high end), there wasn't much difference in cost between Denon and Onkyo.
- lowbloodsugar 4y agoBoth are downmarket now. They are shells of their former selves.
- muro 4y agoI bought a new Marantz receiver a few years ago. Technically, it's great! 4K60Hz on multiple outputs and drives 7 speakers. It's less powerful (W per channel) than the previous Marantz I had (SR8000). The remote and the case feel very cheap, though. Not going to complain much, I put it in a covered shelf, so I don't have to see it much and it automatically takes input from the TV most of the time. Just shame about not being better about that detail.
- starky 4y agoQualitywise you can argue that (I have a Denon AVR from 2013 and even then the Marantz brand was just an expensive looking case around the same electronics), but branding wise Marantz is the high end and Denon is the lower end.