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Why do these types of low quality, seemingly spam / SEO articles always rise to the top on weekend mornings? Is it lack of competition? Easier to manipulate vot
by ohyoutravel 4y ago
Why do these types of low quality, seemingly spam / SEO articles always rise to the top on weekend mornings? Is it lack of competition? Easier to manipulate votes?
- mateuszbuda 4y agoMaybe they use their product to generate upvotes O.O
- daolf 4y ago"low quality". I'm hurt :( PS: we spend tens of hours writing those piece of content and even pay a technical editor to spot the typo and make it more readable since we're not native English. You might not like this post, but I can assure that genuine care was put into writing this!
- degenerate 4y agoScrolling through your article I disagree, it's high quality content. What converts it to "low quality" is the bait-n-switch title. This is not "everything you need to know" -- this is "how to get started from scratch". Metaphor would be "Everything you need to know about fixing cars" and the article shows you how to check the engine light, change oil, rotate tires, and replace spark plugs. There's just no way to make a promise that large and have your article be considered high quality.
- wintercarver 4y agoI thought it was a nice summary, concise, organized, with examples and references. Will revisit it should I need a reminder on scraping. Would not call it low quality at all. Would recommend you ignore passing comments with no constructive criticism. The title is going to be a point of contention as it’s a big claim and probably being misinterpreted as not “everything you need to know [to get started]” but rather “everything you need to know [ever is in this one article and you’ll need not read anything else]”.
- tsukurimashou 4y agochange the title to "everything you need to get started..." instead of "everything you need to know" and try to go easy on SEO optimization most of negative comments will go away
- ohyoutravel 4y agoI don’t think it’s very good and many other highly-rated top level comments seem to agree that not only does it have a scammy SEO “top ten best ${X} in ${CURRENT_YEAR}” but there is a mismatch between what the article is attempting to do with how it is attempting to explain and do it. While I’m glad it’s not GPT-3 level spam, or outsource to third world country for copy level spam, in my opinion the article fails in several fundamental ways, noted above. Putting “genuine care” into something is commendable, but is not a substitute for quality, relevant content. OTOH you’re getting lots of clicks and views for whatever product you’re selling, and even my comments help the “traction” HN gives it, so it doesn’t actually matter what I think.
- is_true 4y agoProbably a tiny bit of manipulation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30025005 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30025005
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- sixhobbits 4y agoIt can take 100 hours or more to put together a guide like this. It is painful to do but helps many people, so its ultimately very rewarding. Every developer I know has learned more from free guides written for free than they have from paid courses, bootcamps, and often university degrees. But thanks for your contribution I guess..
- is_true 4y agoI think it's a nice article, just needs an "almost" and everyone should be happy. Did you write it?
- sixhobbits 4y agoNo I believe @daolf did, but as a fellow writer I know how hard negative feedback hurts (and how rare it is for happy readers to comment).
- pahn 4y agoThe article is an overview aimed at beginners, but as such actually pretty good and helpful. It does not seem to overtly promote their product. Classifying this as spam / SEO only because one is not the target group is not fair.
- mywaifuismeta 4y agoI'm pretty sure there is some manipulation going on to get this article to the top. It's extremely basic and "baity" compared to what you usually find here. I hope HN doesn't turn into the next Medium. It has been getting worse recently, which makes me think people have found better and better ways to create and manage spam/upvote accounts. Perhaps GPT-3 allows them to automate the karma generation for new accounts :)
- idk1 4y agoWhat makes you think this is low quality. I code ruby and not much python but it looked really good to me.
- pfranz 4y agoI end up needing to do something like this every few years. Even when I use Python at my day job every day, it's easy to miss changing best practices when it's slightly outside your domain. So, like I did with this article, skim it to see how credible it seems and take note of things that look like they've changed since I last had to do it (and take a mental note in case it comes up in the near future and I need to get something up relatively quickly).