> do not very much like having their lives managed by teams of social workers Then don't manage. Serve and support. Start by bringing a sandwich, a coffee and

> do not very much like having their lives managed by teams of social workers Then don't manage. Serve and support. Start by bringing a sandwich, a coffee and a smoke and listening for an hour every day, not by shoving them in a cell. Yes, it's expensive, but if it is -- as people here and elsewhere say over and over again -- making an entire area of a city uninhabitable and causing millions in damage and enforcement costs then surely it's worth the cost? Why do people seem to constantly favour being callous and cruel over even being selfish, let alone humane?