5 ms·

Oh look a Reason article where "government is bad." What a shock. Baby formula needs to be closely regulated (see: history around baby formula.) Poor people ne

Oh look a Reason article where "government is bad." What a shock. Baby formula needs to be closely regulated (see: history around baby formula.) Poor people need to be able to care for their babies (see: babies dying is bad.) Seems like things went awry here, but the policies in place are all worthwhile in my view. (Limiting the import of baby formula from other countries falls under the need to closely regulate baby formula.) If anything this is evidence that something so important to human life shouldn't have any for profit organizations involved because those companies can choose to risk not having adequate supply if the upside of that risk is greater profit.

systemvoltage 4y ago
> Oh look a Reason article where "government is bad." What a shock. Let’s leave ad-hominem attacks on the publication out of this, shall we? I think we need more journalism that questions government and its efficiency. Not less. It’s doing rather a disservice to excellent points you’ve brought up.
- badlogic 4y ago
  Pointing out media bias is just as important as pointing out inefficiencies in government.
  - systemvoltage 4y ago
    Meta: We never like to point out media bias of NYT, but have a bias for pointing out how biased anyone else is. NYT gets a free pass. Can you imagine a comment that starts with something like this: “Oh look a NYT article where government is good." What a shock. —- But I digress. I agree, we should point out bias, but shouldn’t reduce the entire article to “What a shock”. Otherwise, we’d throw away every newspaper since they’re all biased. Right?
    - diordiderot 4y ago
      But NYT reports on how gov is bad sometimes
    - puffoflogic 4y ago
      There are plenty of comments like that but dang does a good job of making sure they never violently assault your eyeballs.
- avgcorrection 4y ago
  It’s only an ad hominem if Reason is ashamed of being libertarian. Which they probably are not. It’s rather a wider point: this is where this publication is coming from. It’s part of their overall mission. Sure. Only making this point can get tiresome. You just end up with a bunch of meta comments. But the GP also pointed out why this thing needs to be regulated. As in GP actually tried to counter their arguments. GP is staying on topic.
inglor_cz 4y ago
Profit is just one of the many incentives that can and occassionally will cause great suffering. Leaders and administrators of non-profit organizations won't be concerned about profit, but they are still imperfect humans and will be concerned about other things that may cross-interact with the original mission of the organization, like "staying in power", "winning an internal power struggle", "promoting their relatives or former students", "having 0 failures on their record and thus blocking any development that may lead to failure, even though there are big potential gains", "pushing certain political or religious viewpoints" etc. Look at how dysfunctional the current scientific grant system is for a nice example.

systemvoltage 4y ago

> Oh look a Reason article where "government is bad." What a shock. Let’s leave ad-hominem attacks on the publication out of this, shall we? I think we need more journalism that questions government and its efficiency. Not less. It’s doing rather a disservice to excellent points you’ve brought up.

badlogic 4y ago
Pointing out media bias is just as important as pointing out inefficiencies in government.
- systemvoltage 4y ago
  Meta: We never like to point out media bias of NYT, but have a bias for pointing out how biased anyone else is. NYT gets a free pass. Can you imagine a comment that starts with something like this: “Oh look a NYT article where government is good." What a shock. —- But I digress. I agree, we should point out bias, but shouldn’t reduce the entire article to “What a shock”. Otherwise, we’d throw away every newspaper since they’re all biased. Right?
  - diordiderot 4y ago
    But NYT reports on how gov is bad sometimes
  - puffoflogic 4y ago
    There are plenty of comments like that but dang does a good job of making sure they never violently assault your eyeballs.
avgcorrection 4y ago
It’s only an ad hominem if Reason is ashamed of being libertarian. Which they probably are not. It’s rather a wider point: this is where this publication is coming from. It’s part of their overall mission. Sure. Only making this point can get tiresome. You just end up with a bunch of meta comments. But the GP also pointed out why this thing needs to be regulated. As in GP actually tried to counter their arguments. GP is staying on topic.

inglor_cz 4y ago

Profit is just one of the many incentives that can and occassionally will cause great suffering. Leaders and administrators of non-profit organizations won't be concerned about profit, but they are still imperfect humans and will be concerned about other things that may cross-interact with the original mission of the organization, like "staying in power", "winning an internal power struggle", "promoting their relatives or former students", "having 0 failures on their record and thus blocking any development that may lead to failure, even though there are big potential gains", "pushing certain political or religious viewpoints" etc. Look at how dysfunctional the current scientific grant system is for a nice example.