> code, and all it’s material constructs that you pointed out (loops, allocation etc), do not exist apart from the business, because it’s the only reason those

> code, and all it’s material constructs that you pointed out (loops, allocation etc), do not exist apart from the business, because it’s the only reason those things exist in the first place. I What else is that true for? All the way down. Biology, chemistry, physics, quantum physics.... All that we work on exists in those contexts too. Yet we just swim in the sea and ignore the water. The same is true of business matters. They are the ocean I swim in > I’ve seen devs waste literal months on things that, had the primary stakeholders known about it, they’d never have agreed to. That is poor communication. Communication is a necessary skill for all cooperative endeavours. I am a cog in a machine. Unusually for some one in my position I actually have a good understanding of business (studied it for years) and I prefer computer programming. Having computer programmers stick their oar in over financial matters, unasked, is not good. So I do not do it. I know my place, I like my place.