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Keto diets are both safe and effective. I have yet to meet somebody following one who didn't lose weight. I feel like this topic is basically resolved. Stop

Keto diets are both safe and effective. I have yet to meet somebody following one who didn't lose weight. I feel like this topic is basically resolved. Stop eating carbs.

Smaug123 4y ago
I got bad news for you: I know multiple people who lost weight for two months (as anyone can on literally any calorie-restriction diet) but simply couldn't follow it for much longer than that. I myself stopped being keto a couple of days after the evening crying started.
- thepasswordis 4y ago
  What is the bad news? It sounds like they stopped eating healthy, and got fat as a result of it. Eating a healthy diet for two months doesn't mean you can go back to eating trash and expecting to stay healthy.
  - Smaug123 4y ago
    Your advice is not actionable. I know several people including myself who were simply unable to action it for longer than the two months that anyone can stick to any diet. If you are capable of sticking to a diet that literally brings you to tears on a daily basis, then sure, but do realise that you're probably in about the top percentile of willpower. (I imagine you were not in fact brought to tears by this diet, or you wouldn't be recommending it; in which case you may not be aware that it's not a panacea.)
    - thepasswordis 4y ago
      Are you saying you were brought to tears because you weren’t eating carbs? I have known many people who have lost weight very successfully by switching a healthy, safe, and effective low carb/keto diet. In fact I’ve never even heard of crying being a side effect. How are you suggesting these things are even linked?
      - Smaug123 4y ago
        All I know is that I couldn't think of anything other than carbs, and started crying because I wanted carbs so much, and then when I ate carbs it was blissful and I stopped thinking about carbs and I stopped crying. I don't know what more evidence it would be possible to have that they were linked.
        tintedfireglass 4y ago
        Isn't that called addictions? Replace carbs with any drug and it sounds quite plausible.
        Smaug123 4y ago
        I don't think you're actually arguing with me. I claim that keto doesn't work for everyone, and so apparently do you.
samsa 4y ago
So are vegan diets. (By which I mean: whole food, plant based.) But you don't need to pick a team with all the tribalism that's involved. It really is as simple as eating less, like the article lays out. And eating less is much easier if the foods you are eating are fiber rich (more filling).
- thepasswordis 4y ago
  You are describing most of a keto diet, which is high in fiber, and sources most of its calories from fat instead of carbohydrates.
- Beltalowda 4y ago
  > But you don't need to pick a team with all the tribalism that's involved. Sometimes labels are just easier than a "wishy-washy" "yeah I'll do something in that general direction". That doesn't need to involve tribalism; pretty much all vegan and keto people I know are fairly pragmatic about it.
xdrone 4y ago
Most studies on the subject of "keto mortality" say otherwise. I wouldn't consider keto safe at all. Here's a few from a quick search: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7145128/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7145128/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23372809/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23372809/ https://www.thelancet.com/article/S2468-2667(18)30135-X/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/article/S2468-2667(18)30135-X/full... imo, organizations like NutritionalFacts.org offer the best evidence based guidence for health, and weight loss. They site studies for each talking point. There are years of content here. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCddn8dUxYdgJz3Qr5mjADtA https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCddn8dUxYdgJz3Qr5mjADtA
throwuxiytayq 4y ago
I like keto because it helps me maintain energy throughout the day, but I need to eat practically non-stop to avoid losing weight while on it. It's crazy.
- thepasswordis 4y ago
  Exact same experience. It honesty feels like unlocking a cheat code, and makes me really frustrated at the “diet industry” which is constantly pushing these absurd fad diets onto people.

Keto diets are both safe and effective. I have yet to meet somebody following one who didn't lose weight. I feel like this topic is basically resolved. Stop eating carbs.

Smaug123 4y ago

I got bad news for you: I know multiple people who lost weight for two months (as anyone can on literally any calorie-restriction diet) but simply couldn't follow it for much longer than that. I myself stopped being keto a couple of days after the evening crying started.

thepasswordis 4y ago
What is the bad news? It sounds like they stopped eating healthy, and got fat as a result of it. Eating a healthy diet for two months doesn't mean you can go back to eating trash and expecting to stay healthy.
- Smaug123 4y ago
  Your advice is not actionable. I know several people including myself who were simply unable to action it for longer than the two months that anyone can stick to any diet. If you are capable of sticking to a diet that literally brings you to tears on a daily basis, then sure, but do realise that you're probably in about the top percentile of willpower. (I imagine you were not in fact brought to tears by this diet, or you wouldn't be recommending it; in which case you may not be aware that it's not a panacea.)
  - thepasswordis 4y ago
    Are you saying you were brought to tears because you weren’t eating carbs? I have known many people who have lost weight very successfully by switching a healthy, safe, and effective low carb/keto diet. In fact I’ve never even heard of crying being a side effect. How are you suggesting these things are even linked?
    - Smaug123 4y ago
      All I know is that I couldn't think of anything other than carbs, and started crying because I wanted carbs so much, and then when I ate carbs it was blissful and I stopped thinking about carbs and I stopped crying. I don't know what more evidence it would be possible to have that they were linked.
      - tintedfireglass 4y ago
        Isn't that called addictions? Replace carbs with any drug and it sounds quite plausible.
        Smaug123 4y ago
        I don't think you're actually arguing with me. I claim that keto doesn't work for everyone, and so apparently do you.

samsa 4y ago

So are vegan diets. (By which I mean: whole food, plant based.) But you don't need to pick a team with all the tribalism that's involved. It really is as simple as eating less, like the article lays out. And eating less is much easier if the foods you are eating are fiber rich (more filling).

thepasswordis 4y ago
You are describing most of a keto diet, which is high in fiber, and sources most of its calories from fat instead of carbohydrates.
Beltalowda 4y ago
> But you don't need to pick a team with all the tribalism that's involved. Sometimes labels are just easier than a "wishy-washy" "yeah I'll do something in that general direction". That doesn't need to involve tribalism; pretty much all vegan and keto people I know are fairly pragmatic about it.

xdrone 4y ago

Most studies on the subject of "keto mortality" say otherwise. I wouldn't consider keto safe at all. Here's a few from a quick search: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7145128/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7145128/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23372809/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23372809/ https://www.thelancet.com/article/S2468-2667(18)30135-X/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/article/S2468-2667(18)30135-X/full... imo, organizations like NutritionalFacts.org offer the best evidence based guidence for health, and weight loss. They site studies for each talking point. There are years of content here. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCddn8dUxYdgJz3Qr5mjADtA https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCddn8dUxYdgJz3Qr5mjADtA

throwuxiytayq 4y ago

I like keto because it helps me maintain energy throughout the day, but I need to eat practically non-stop to avoid losing weight while on it. It's crazy.

thepasswordis 4y ago
Exact same experience. It honesty feels like unlocking a cheat code, and makes me really frustrated at the “diet industry” which is constantly pushing these absurd fad diets onto people.