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Even if the country theoretically was in a good place to defend against it (I don't believe they are), it would be political suicide for anyone in the western w

Even if the country theoretically was in a good place to defend against it (I don't believe they are), it would be political suicide for anyone in the western world to listen to someone that's closer to Hitler than any dictator in the world since World War 2. It doesn't matter what they say, the well has been thoroughly poisoned so any words that come out of it are automatically wrong.

daniel-cussen 4y ago
Well nobody is closer to Hitler than Adolph Hitler, and what did he say? I remember a Finnish audio engineer recorded him speaking in his normal conversational voice, of which there was no other recording. He told his elite he fucked up. Russia was turning the war around, and specifically it was because of Donets, where there was a tank factory that made a disgusting amount of tanks, because its people were "living like animals." So they could make more tanks! So Communism worked at that place, at that time, when people worked with abandon, incentives be damned. And in fact English and Americans didn't want Russians to have a decisive victory, they wanted them to barely win so there wouldn't be a Cold War, not roll over Berlin before they did. Donets has never stopped fighting Nazism. EDIT: My Youtube isn't cooperating, it showed me a video about that recording where they cut and let a historian talk right in the moment I'm talking about, when a subordinate said "In Donets!" and Adolph Hitler replies, "Aye, in Donets". That's where they cut it. That tells you everything.
- oblak 4y ago
  I had forgotten about that recording. Thank you. Definite worth listening to.
- ChoGGi 4y ago
  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oET1WaG5sFk https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oET1WaG5sFk
  - daniel-cussen 4y ago
    That's the one. Donets. Donets fucked Hitler over, the only complaint he ever made, didn't even cry when his father beat him after making up his mind against it, Donets was his undoing. Like the Misanthropy Division, like what? Division? Oh yeah, if the word is Division it's real. Yeah those guys are real Nazis, just America doesn't care in the abstract, only in the specific when it is good for them. Gave them a pass and let them leave Germany the minute Soviets tanked Berlin. Just like not caring about tons of other things that you would think if you listened to their--to our, I'm American--Hollywood and proclamations, League of Nations. Korea bought into that over and over. I'm surprised anybody listens, History isn't that favorable if you remove WWII as the outlier it is. And now it turns out they never actually cared about Nazism, they're going to "rebrand" it now as National Socialism, poor history channel the ratings! But realistically Donets, that just hurts, those were the people of Donets that lived like animals cranking out tanks around the clock. They didn't go anywhere, they didn't get exterminated, barely, they stopped the Nazis from getting there...but not forever. Recurring nightmare.
alwayslikethis 4y ago
No politician needs to listen to them for this to be effective. Having state-sponsored groups to attack DRM among other technical measures to produce cracked content can make them drastically harder to block. It may also help with winning over the hearts and minds of the people in in the coming years. Russia has a history of playing both sides when it comes to manipulating western politics, supporting both far-left and far-right groups in order to destabilize western countries, so this may well be a part of their strategy.
medo-bear 4y ago
> someone that's closer to Hitler than any dictator in the world since World War 2 how good is your history dude? https://www.salon.com/2014/03/08/35_countries_the_u_s_has_backed_international_crime_partner/ https://www.salon.com/2014/03/08/35_countries_the_u_s_has_ba...

daniel-cussen 4y ago

Well nobody is closer to Hitler than Adolph Hitler, and what did he say? I remember a Finnish audio engineer recorded him speaking in his normal conversational voice, of which there was no other recording. He told his elite he fucked up. Russia was turning the war around, and specifically it was because of Donets, where there was a tank factory that made a disgusting amount of tanks, because its people were "living like animals." So they could make more tanks! So Communism worked at that place, at that time, when people worked with abandon, incentives be damned. And in fact English and Americans didn't want Russians to have a decisive victory, they wanted them to barely win so there wouldn't be a Cold War, not roll over Berlin before they did. Donets has never stopped fighting Nazism. EDIT: My Youtube isn't cooperating, it showed me a video about that recording where they cut and let a historian talk right in the moment I'm talking about, when a subordinate said "In Donets!" and Adolph Hitler replies, "Aye, in Donets". That's where they cut it. That tells you everything.

oblak 4y ago
I had forgotten about that recording. Thank you. Definite worth listening to.
ChoGGi 4y ago
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oET1WaG5sFk https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oET1WaG5sFk
- daniel-cussen 4y ago
  That's the one. Donets. Donets fucked Hitler over, the only complaint he ever made, didn't even cry when his father beat him after making up his mind against it, Donets was his undoing. Like the Misanthropy Division, like what? Division? Oh yeah, if the word is Division it's real. Yeah those guys are real Nazis, just America doesn't care in the abstract, only in the specific when it is good for them. Gave them a pass and let them leave Germany the minute Soviets tanked Berlin. Just like not caring about tons of other things that you would think if you listened to their--to our, I'm American--Hollywood and proclamations, League of Nations. Korea bought into that over and over. I'm surprised anybody listens, History isn't that favorable if you remove WWII as the outlier it is. And now it turns out they never actually cared about Nazism, they're going to "rebrand" it now as National Socialism, poor history channel the ratings! But realistically Donets, that just hurts, those were the people of Donets that lived like animals cranking out tanks around the clock. They didn't go anywhere, they didn't get exterminated, barely, they stopped the Nazis from getting there...but not forever. Recurring nightmare.

alwayslikethis 4y ago

No politician needs to listen to them for this to be effective. Having state-sponsored groups to attack DRM among other technical measures to produce cracked content can make them drastically harder to block. It may also help with winning over the hearts and minds of the people in in the coming years. Russia has a history of playing both sides when it comes to manipulating western politics, supporting both far-left and far-right groups in order to destabilize western countries, so this may well be a part of their strategy.

medo-bear 4y ago

> someone that's closer to Hitler than any dictator in the world since World War 2 how good is your history dude? https://www.salon.com/2014/03/08/35_countries_the_u_s_has_backed_international_crime_partner/ https://www.salon.com/2014/03/08/35_countries_the_u_s_has_ba...