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would you be fine with a movie criticizing child pornography, but ending up doing a little bit of CP (fake, of course, but still CP)? I guess the parent is mak

would you be fine with a movie criticizing child pornography, but ending up doing a little bit of CP (fake, of course, but still CP)? I guess the parent is making a similar comparison. I am not that enraged by this, but I haven't watched the movie. I am very weary of any "think of the kids" outrage, it's usually bullshit...except the LGBTQ indoctrination at a young age, that is real. We ended up having 21% of young people to identify as LGBTQ. You can't convince me that this is the base rate and up until now 1 in 5 people were LGBTQ but were just afraid of coming out. https://www.axios.com/2022/02/17/lgbtq-generation-z-gallup https://www.axios.com/2022/02/17/lgbtq-generation-z-gallup

antifa 4y ago
> I am very weary of any "think of the kids" outrage, it's usually bullshit...except the LGBTQ indoctrination at a young age, that is real That is probably one of the most obviously not real moral panics you could possibly fall for. > You can't convince me that this is the base rate and up until now 1 in 5 people were LGBTQ but were just afraid of coming out. Why not? They use to not tell anyone because they were afraid of being murdered, that seems like the most obvious explanation, application of occams razor, etc..
- flavius29663 4y ago
  If my math is not wrong, the murder rate for trans people is actually lower than the general population https://www.hrc.org/resources/fatal-violence-against-the-transgender-and-gender-non-conforming-community-in-2021 https://www.hrc.org/resources/fatal-violence-against-the-tra... https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/10/27/what-we-know-about-the-increase-in-u-s-murders-in-2020/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/10/27/what-we-kno... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5227946/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5227946/
  - virgildotcodes 4y ago
    I mean, if you want to give his point a generous interpretation, replace murder with bullying/alienation/etc. Seems rational that in a less hostile environment, a greater percentage of LGBTQ people would feel more comfortable exploring their sexuality and coming out as such.
    - antifa 4y ago
      > if you want to give his point a generous interpretation No need to be generous, it's a centuries long historic fact. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_LGBT_people https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_LGBT_people
      - virgildotcodes 4y ago
        I agree. I just thought I’d sidestep any potential debate and reiterate the heart of the matter which should be impossible for anyone to deny.
        flavius29663 4y ago
        being trans or gay is such a big thing, I don't really think you can hide from being trans... It seems to me like it's being trivialized today, and some kids are pushed to say they are one just to be in trend with others. Body dysmorphia is no joke, it's like saying: there were always these many anorexic girls, they were just too shy to show it.
        antifa 4y ago
        > and some kids are pushed to say they are one just to be in trend with others I don't believe this is generally true, and if it was true, I don't believe any doctors prescribing HRT are falling for it, and even if you proved a statistically improbable thing happened once or twice, the ratio of "trans kids hiding in the closet under coercion" to "cis kids pretending to be trans under coercion" would still be something like 999999:1.

antifa 4y ago

> I am very weary of any "think of the kids" outrage, it's usually bullshit...except the LGBTQ indoctrination at a young age, that is real That is probably one of the most obviously not real moral panics you could possibly fall for. > You can't convince me that this is the base rate and up until now 1 in 5 people were LGBTQ but were just afraid of coming out. Why not? They use to not tell anyone because they were afraid of being murdered, that seems like the most obvious explanation, application of occams razor, etc..

flavius29663 4y ago
If my math is not wrong, the murder rate for trans people is actually lower than the general population https://www.hrc.org/resources/fatal-violence-against-the-transgender-and-gender-non-conforming-community-in-2021 https://www.hrc.org/resources/fatal-violence-against-the-tra... https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/10/27/what-we-know-about-the-increase-in-u-s-murders-in-2020/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/10/27/what-we-kno... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5227946/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5227946/
- virgildotcodes 4y ago
  I mean, if you want to give his point a generous interpretation, replace murder with bullying/alienation/etc. Seems rational that in a less hostile environment, a greater percentage of LGBTQ people would feel more comfortable exploring their sexuality and coming out as such.
  - antifa 4y ago
    > if you want to give his point a generous interpretation No need to be generous, it's a centuries long historic fact. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_LGBT_people https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_LGBT_people
    - virgildotcodes 4y ago
      I agree. I just thought I’d sidestep any potential debate and reiterate the heart of the matter which should be impossible for anyone to deny.
      - flavius29663 4y ago
        being trans or gay is such a big thing, I don't really think you can hide from being trans... It seems to me like it's being trivialized today, and some kids are pushed to say they are one just to be in trend with others. Body dysmorphia is no joke, it's like saying: there were always these many anorexic girls, they were just too shy to show it.
        antifa 4y ago
        > and some kids are pushed to say they are one just to be in trend with others I don't believe this is generally true, and if it was true, I don't believe any doctors prescribing HRT are falling for it, and even if you proved a statistically improbable thing happened once or twice, the ratio of "trans kids hiding in the closet under coercion" to "cis kids pretending to be trans under coercion" would still be something like 999999:1.