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I never understood the violence argument. There are 1 million transgender people in the US https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5227946/ https://www.nc

I never understood the violence argument. There are 1 million transgender people in the US https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5227946/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5227946/ There are 44 murders against them in 2021, which apparently was the worse year ever. https://www.hrc.org/resources/fatal-violence-against-the-transgender-and-gender-non-conforming-community-in-2021 https://www.hrc.org/resources/fatal-violence-against-the-tra... This is a murder rate of 44/1mil, or 4.4/100k. The general population murder rate is 6.9 in 2021 https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-murder-rate-violence-big-cities-records https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-murder-rate-violence-big-citie... I can understand that trans people murders might be under-reported, but on the other hand, trans people do tend to get into more risky behavior than the general population (the general population includes retirees, children etc.)

rendall 4y ago
Yeah, I might question that line about "more risky behavior", too. [citation needed], as they say. Unless you mean "being trans" is the risky behavior?
- robonerd 4y ago
  From: https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/02/decriminalizing-prostitution-is-central-to-transgender-rights.html https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/02/decriminalizing-pro... > According to the 2015 U.S. Transgender Survey, 19 percent of all trans people, and 47 percent of black trans women, have engaged in sex work. This does not take place in a vacuum but in the context of pervasive societal discrimination against trans people in general, and trans women of color in particular. Due to various injustices, sex work is very dangerous. The 19% of trans people who have done sex work are exposed to elevated risk relative to the general population. That 19% is large enough to put a thumb on the scale. It's like saying men are more likely to die in workplace accidents. Why might this be true? Probably because a lot of men work in coal mines, which are very dangerous. Does that mean I, an office worker, am more likely to be crushed by a falling filing cabinet than the women I work with? No, probably not. The group statistic doesn't tell you everything you need to know about the risk an individual faces.
  - rendall 4y ago
    I acknowledge, I asked, and you brought the goods. Thank you.
monkey_monkey 4y ago
> trans people do tend to get into more risky behavior What risky behaviour are you referring to?
- drewcoo 4y ago
  I assumed that meant drug smuggling, joining the mafia, befriending serial killers, and pissing off ninjas, but now I'm curious, too.
- flavius29663 4y ago
  from a sister comment From: https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/02/decriminalizing-pro https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/02/decriminalizing-pro... > According to the 2015 U.S. Transgender Survey, 19 percent of all trans people, and 47 percent of black trans women, have engaged in sex work. This does not take place in a vacuum but in the context of pervasive societal discrimination against trans people in general, and trans women of color in particular.
TaylorAlexander 4y ago
There’s a lot of violence that isn’t murder. My trans ex was a victim of abuse in a city where no one cared about trans people.

rendall 4y ago

Yeah, I might question that line about "more risky behavior", too. [citation needed], as they say. Unless you mean "being trans" is the risky behavior?

robonerd 4y ago
From: https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/02/decriminalizing-prostitution-is-central-to-transgender-rights.html https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/02/decriminalizing-pro... > According to the 2015 U.S. Transgender Survey, 19 percent of all trans people, and 47 percent of black trans women, have engaged in sex work. This does not take place in a vacuum but in the context of pervasive societal discrimination against trans people in general, and trans women of color in particular. Due to various injustices, sex work is very dangerous. The 19% of trans people who have done sex work are exposed to elevated risk relative to the general population. That 19% is large enough to put a thumb on the scale. It's like saying men are more likely to die in workplace accidents. Why might this be true? Probably because a lot of men work in coal mines, which are very dangerous. Does that mean I, an office worker, am more likely to be crushed by a falling filing cabinet than the women I work with? No, probably not. The group statistic doesn't tell you everything you need to know about the risk an individual faces.
- rendall 4y ago
  I acknowledge, I asked, and you brought the goods. Thank you.

monkey_monkey 4y ago

> trans people do tend to get into more risky behavior What risky behaviour are you referring to?

drewcoo 4y ago
I assumed that meant drug smuggling, joining the mafia, befriending serial killers, and pissing off ninjas, but now I'm curious, too.
flavius29663 4y ago
from a sister comment From: https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/02/decriminalizing-pro https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/02/decriminalizing-pro... > According to the 2015 U.S. Transgender Survey, 19 percent of all trans people, and 47 percent of black trans women, have engaged in sex work. This does not take place in a vacuum but in the context of pervasive societal discrimination against trans people in general, and trans women of color in particular.

TaylorAlexander 4y ago

There’s a lot of violence that isn’t murder. My trans ex was a victim of abuse in a city where no one cared about trans people.