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A bit much to pin on a single event. And why would Germany do espionage on a Spanish diplomat. Surely Spain and Germany can coordinate vis a vis negotiations w

A bit much to pin on a single event. And why would Germany do espionage on a Spanish diplomat. Surely Spain and Germany can coordinate vis a vis negotiations with Iran.

chasil 4y ago
I have booked round-trip travel through Frankfurt once before, and I will say that the questions on my return were pointed, but the episode was brief. The greater question for the European Union is the strength of that very union. If the union members lack sufficient trust to honor diplomatic immunity between one another, then what real strength does it have?
- yakak 4y ago
  I think these interpretations are incorrect. Part of being in the Schengen zone is that police can continue right across borders in hot pursuit, etc. The German officials probably wouldn't have searched a non-EU diplomat because that wouldn't have been cleared up by a discussion with his superior.
  - chasil 4y ago
    I appreciate your sentiments and, as a U.S. citizen, there are doubtless many aspects of this situation that would be opaque to me.
qiskit 4y ago
Everyone spies on everyone. Especially on their allies/friends/etc. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-security-agency-spied-merkel-other-top-european-officials-through-danish-2021-05-30/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-security-agency-spie... We are led to believe that adversaries spy on each other. The vast majority of spying in the world are allies against allies. The biggest spy rings in the US by far are israeli and british/canadian not the russians or the chinese. It seems counterintuitive, but if you think about it from a practical and geopolitical standpoint, it's fairly obvious. The country that spies the most on the EU members isn't russia, it's the US.
LatteLazy 4y ago
Just speculation but... There have been a bunch of issues with single countries inside the EU doing the USs bidding. Given how the EU is deviating strongly from US policy, if I were country 1, I'd be worried countries 2-26 might be leaking, undermining or otherwise breaking ranks... Such is the problem of being a very lose union with a lot of potential power...

A bit much to pin on a single event. And why would Germany do espionage on a Spanish diplomat. Surely Spain and Germany can coordinate vis a vis negotiations with Iran.

chasil 4y ago

I have booked round-trip travel through Frankfurt once before, and I will say that the questions on my return were pointed, but the episode was brief. The greater question for the European Union is the strength of that very union. If the union members lack sufficient trust to honor diplomatic immunity between one another, then what real strength does it have?

yakak 4y ago
I think these interpretations are incorrect. Part of being in the Schengen zone is that police can continue right across borders in hot pursuit, etc. The German officials probably wouldn't have searched a non-EU diplomat because that wouldn't have been cleared up by a discussion with his superior.
- chasil 4y ago
  I appreciate your sentiments and, as a U.S. citizen, there are doubtless many aspects of this situation that would be opaque to me.

qiskit 4y ago

Everyone spies on everyone. Especially on their allies/friends/etc. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-security-agency-spied-merkel-other-top-european-officials-through-danish-2021-05-30/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-security-agency-spie... We are led to believe that adversaries spy on each other. The vast majority of spying in the world are allies against allies. The biggest spy rings in the US by far are israeli and british/canadian not the russians or the chinese. It seems counterintuitive, but if you think about it from a practical and geopolitical standpoint, it's fairly obvious. The country that spies the most on the EU members isn't russia, it's the US.

LatteLazy 4y ago

Just speculation but... There have been a bunch of issues with single countries inside the EU doing the USs bidding. Given how the EU is deviating strongly from US policy, if I were country 1, I'd be worried countries 2-26 might be leaking, undermining or otherwise breaking ranks... Such is the problem of being a very lose union with a lot of potential power...