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Republican who opposes funding the FDA complains they can’t do their job quickly enough.

by TimPC 4y ago

ratsmack 4y ago
Aside from politics, there is a great deal of bloat and complacency in all government agencies. Just funneling more money to them does not make it better. If government agencies were run like a business, half of the staff would be laid off.
- mmastrac 4y ago
  How do you run a consumer protection agency when shareholder value is the #1 concern? Genuinely curious.
  - ratsmack 4y ago
    Most companies are not "public" and are not beholden to the overly zealous profit driven mentality. Many private companies are very efficient and would be a good model for how a government agency should be run.
- human_person 4y ago
  Efficiency isn’t the goal of government. Serving everyone /every edge case is. A classic example is usps vs fedex. The postal service has to deliver to everyone. Not just people living in high density areas. Fedex can choose to only deliver to profitable areas or use the usps for delivering to more rural areas. Not to mention we don’t actually want the govt working at maximum efficiency. That implies that in an emergency there isn’t any slack left in the system to offer help where it is needed.
  - junofan 4y ago
    You’re describing “universal service obligation.” It’s not a feature of all government services. You can get a landline at nearly any address from a private company. Whereas if you call the police, they can use discretion on whether to provide service.
    - autoexec 4y ago
      > You can get a landline at nearly any address from a private company. Whereas if you call the police, they can use discretion on whether to provide service. The availability of landlines to remote locations is in large part due to government subsidies. There are programs at both the state and the federal level to help offset the costs of providing services in areas that wouldn't otherwise be as profitable or indeed bring in any profit at all. If the government hadn't been helping to ease the burden on telecoms for providing those services we wouldn't see nearly as much copper being strung/buried/maintained in rural or difficult to reach locations. As for police, I think most everyone agrees that it's not an ideal situation to have areas too dangerous for police to effectively respond, but at a certain point it becomes a matter of safety. Private companies also won't deliver services in extremely dangerous neighborhoods and have a long history of using "discretion on whether to provide service" based on much less.
  - _-david-_ 4y ago
    >The postal service has to deliver to everyone. Not just people living in high density areas. Well unless they decide not to. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/13/us/usps-mail-attacks-california.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/13/us/usps-mail-attacks-cali...
refurb 4y ago
Wasn’t Project Warp Speed a Republican idea? Hmmmm
- IX-103 4y ago
  Project Warp Speed was originally proposed by non-political civil servants and then approved by the Republican administration. It was one of several proposals to deal with the pandemic. Most of the others (such as a plan to provide masks for all Americans) were rejected, for better or worse. IMHO, the civil servants that do the work of government don't get enough credit. Without them, our elected officials wouldn't have options.
  - refurb 4y ago
    I mean plenty of proposals are made, but ignored. A Republican administration gave it the go ahead. A wildly successful FDA + private company partnership which directly contradicts OPs comment that “republicans hate the FDA”

Republican who opposes funding the FDA complains they can’t do their job quickly enough.

by TimPC 4y ago

Republican who opposes funding the FDA complains they can’t do their job quickly enough.

Aside from politics, there is a great deal of bloat and complacency in all government agencies. Just funneling more money to them does not make it better. If government agencies were run like a business, half of the staff would be laid off.

mmastrac 4y ago
How do you run a consumer protection agency when shareholder value is the #1 concern? Genuinely curious.
- ratsmack 4y ago
  Most companies are not "public" and are not beholden to the overly zealous profit driven mentality. Many private companies are very efficient and would be a good model for how a government agency should be run.
human_person 4y ago
Efficiency isn’t the goal of government. Serving everyone /every edge case is. A classic example is usps vs fedex. The postal service has to deliver to everyone. Not just people living in high density areas. Fedex can choose to only deliver to profitable areas or use the usps for delivering to more rural areas. Not to mention we don’t actually want the govt working at maximum efficiency. That implies that in an emergency there isn’t any slack left in the system to offer help where it is needed.
- junofan 4y ago
  You’re describing “universal service obligation.” It’s not a feature of all government services. You can get a landline at nearly any address from a private company. Whereas if you call the police, they can use discretion on whether to provide service.
  - autoexec 4y ago
    > You can get a landline at nearly any address from a private company. Whereas if you call the police, they can use discretion on whether to provide service. The availability of landlines to remote locations is in large part due to government subsidies. There are programs at both the state and the federal level to help offset the costs of providing services in areas that wouldn't otherwise be as profitable or indeed bring in any profit at all. If the government hadn't been helping to ease the burden on telecoms for providing those services we wouldn't see nearly as much copper being strung/buried/maintained in rural or difficult to reach locations. As for police, I think most everyone agrees that it's not an ideal situation to have areas too dangerous for police to effectively respond, but at a certain point it becomes a matter of safety. Private companies also won't deliver services in extremely dangerous neighborhoods and have a long history of using "discretion on whether to provide service" based on much less.
- _-david-_ 4y ago
  >The postal service has to deliver to everyone. Not just people living in high density areas. Well unless they decide not to. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/13/us/usps-mail-attacks-california.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/13/us/usps-mail-attacks-cali...

refurb 4y ago

Wasn’t Project Warp Speed a Republican idea? Hmmmm

IX-103 4y ago
Project Warp Speed was originally proposed by non-political civil servants and then approved by the Republican administration. It was one of several proposals to deal with the pandemic. Most of the others (such as a plan to provide masks for all Americans) were rejected, for better or worse. IMHO, the civil servants that do the work of government don't get enough credit. Without them, our elected officials wouldn't have options.
- refurb 4y ago
  I mean plenty of proposals are made, but ignored. A Republican administration gave it the go ahead. A wildly successful FDA + private company partnership which directly contradicts OPs comment that “republicans hate the FDA”