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The students you mentioned are probably more nervous about the $1000+ device now not in their control than they are as a ‘withdrawal’ symptom. I’m happy to show

The students you mentioned are probably more nervous about the $1000+ device now not in their control than they are as a ‘withdrawal’ symptom. I’m happy to show the device being turned off and out in a backpack in those situations, but I’m not letting it out of my possession. I’d sooner just not take it with me in the first place. Taking my own phone into a hostile situation on the other hand, why would you? I don’t even take my own phone when travelling for business.

klysm 4y ago
> I don’t even take my own phone when travelling for business. Huh? That makes absolutely no sense to me. Being on business travel is exactly when I want my phone.
- spacehome 4y ago
  That’s what your business phone is for.
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  - leaflets2 4y ago
    Burner business phone? Maybe just reuse the phone number?
- catach 4y ago
  Most would certainly want a phone, but the borders one crosses and the government policies around those crossing may disincentivize bringing your personal phone.
pmichaud 4y ago
Yeah this is a good point. Maybe it’s solvable with simple tech like this: https://www.amazon.com/brotrade-Hanging-Jewelry-Organizer-Jewelries/dp/B01CPHFN34 https://www.amazon.com/brotrade-Hanging-Jewelry-Organizer-Je... Get a similar soft display case with compartments big enough to hold cell phones, and have it displayed at the front of the class where everyone can see them. You put your phone in one of the “pouches,” you can see it the whole time you’re taking an exam, you pick it back out once you’re done. I’m not sure what a practical method of ensuring you get the right phone back would be, but I can think of a few schemes. For example, each pouch has a uniquely numbered card, and when you put your phone in there, you take the card. Then you put the card back when you pick your phone back up. It would probably be helpful to have 1 or 2 visual indicators that you got it right, like the coordinates from the card also printed on the clear plastic in a way that’s easy to see them match, plus maybe a color scheme where a stripe or sticker of some kind on the clear plastic matches the color of the card itself. (This all to prevent accidental mix ups, not theft. The main benefit I see is letting the people still taking the exam feel confident that their phone is visible to them and it’ll remain where it is until they pick it up.)
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rco8786 4y ago
Highly disagree. We all have things that cost money that we don’t think about every 10 seconds. Even your own example, leaving your phone while on a business trip is fine. But having it in a box a few feet away is somehow anxiety inducing because of its cost?
- ilammy 4y ago
  What if some asshole throws theirs into the pile and cracks the screen of yours? What if the box gets turned over and phones spill to the floor? Those are objective risks. Then you should also factor in subjective belief that when the phone is in your hands then you control its safety, while when it's out of your hands then anything can happen. When you're not in control, you tend to get pretty anxious. Then you can add in other nightmares. What if the screen gets scratched? What if the phone gets crushed? What if someone takes your phone and accidentally drops it? What if they take it and leave with it? What if someone spills their coffee into the box? What if someone touches your phone with their filthy greasy hands and you get corona because of that?
  - rco8786 4y ago
    Yes we can “what if” the situation to death but that’s not really of much use to anyone. The phones being described are presumably stationary without anyone throwing anything on the pile, since we’re talking about an exam environment.
    - leaflets2 4y ago
      The exam guards can start with saying: "There is no need to worry. We will not drop your phones on the stone floor, and no one will take your phone by accident just because it looks the same." The students will then look relaxed :-)
      - asddubs 4y ago
        tbh as a kid, i 100% definitely would have been worries about someone claiming my phone is theirs, on purpose

klysm 4y ago

> I don’t even take my own phone when travelling for business. Huh? That makes absolutely no sense to me. Being on business travel is exactly when I want my phone.

spacehome 4y ago
That’s what your business phone is for.
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- leaflets2 4y ago
  Burner business phone? Maybe just reuse the phone number?
catach 4y ago
Most would certainly want a phone, but the borders one crosses and the government policies around those crossing may disincentivize bringing your personal phone.

pmichaud 4y ago

Yeah this is a good point. Maybe it’s solvable with simple tech like this: https://www.amazon.com/brotrade-Hanging-Jewelry-Organizer-Jewelries/dp/B01CPHFN34 https://www.amazon.com/brotrade-Hanging-Jewelry-Organizer-Je... Get a similar soft display case with compartments big enough to hold cell phones, and have it displayed at the front of the class where everyone can see them. You put your phone in one of the “pouches,” you can see it the whole time you’re taking an exam, you pick it back out once you’re done. I’m not sure what a practical method of ensuring you get the right phone back would be, but I can think of a few schemes. For example, each pouch has a uniquely numbered card, and when you put your phone in there, you take the card. Then you put the card back when you pick your phone back up. It would probably be helpful to have 1 or 2 visual indicators that you got it right, like the coordinates from the card also printed on the clear plastic in a way that’s easy to see them match, plus maybe a color scheme where a stripe or sticker of some kind on the clear plastic matches the color of the card itself. (This all to prevent accidental mix ups, not theft. The main benefit I see is letting the people still taking the exam feel confident that their phone is visible to them and it’ll remain where it is until they pick it up.)

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rco8786 4y ago

Highly disagree. We all have things that cost money that we don’t think about every 10 seconds. Even your own example, leaving your phone while on a business trip is fine. But having it in a box a few feet away is somehow anxiety inducing because of its cost?

ilammy 4y ago
What if some asshole throws theirs into the pile and cracks the screen of yours? What if the box gets turned over and phones spill to the floor? Those are objective risks. Then you should also factor in subjective belief that when the phone is in your hands then you control its safety, while when it's out of your hands then anything can happen. When you're not in control, you tend to get pretty anxious. Then you can add in other nightmares. What if the screen gets scratched? What if the phone gets crushed? What if someone takes your phone and accidentally drops it? What if they take it and leave with it? What if someone spills their coffee into the box? What if someone touches your phone with their filthy greasy hands and you get corona because of that?
- rco8786 4y ago
  Yes we can “what if” the situation to death but that’s not really of much use to anyone. The phones being described are presumably stationary without anyone throwing anything on the pile, since we’re talking about an exam environment.
  - leaflets2 4y ago
    The exam guards can start with saying: "There is no need to worry. We will not drop your phones on the stone floor, and no one will take your phone by accident just because it looks the same." The students will then look relaxed :-)
    - asddubs 4y ago
      tbh as a kid, i 100% definitely would have been worries about someone claiming my phone is theirs, on purpose