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Agree. I like simpler. Most of my coworkers do not prefer simpler. They want to use tons of AWS services.

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eastbound 4y ago
Resume-Based Development. My employees are the same. They want to tick all new tech boxes with our product, and they’re right, because they exit with 35% higher pay elsewhere (and I clearly don’t underpay them - this market seems to have no upward limit, and the only thing I’d like from them is taking ownership and responsibility, and it’s not happening).
- nikanj 4y ago
  Are you actually offering them ownership, i.e. large enough equity to have any say in corporate matters? Not just financial instruments that can lead to ownership after a years-long vesting schedule+exercising?
  - eastbound 4y ago
    Will they perform better if I give them a million dollars for free?
    - nikanj 4y ago
      So your main complaint is: "People without ownership act without ownership"?
      - eastbound 4y ago
        The basic principle of ownership is: - You get $0 on day one, - After the job is done and it hits the market, you may get a million dollars. What employees want: - Be paid full market rate from day one even if it doesn’t work, - AND ALSO getting dividends if it works, It looks like you are just advocating to give them more more more. But let’s entertain the idea of implementing your advice seriously: - I’d have to hire entrepreneurs who understand how market moves and what the risks are, - I’d have to sell them stock on a given FMV that we determine together (Fair Market Value, =valuation per share), so FMV=0$ when the company starts, but it’s much higher when they join 5 years later when the product has already hit big and the good ideas are there. Estimating valuation is extremely hard and they would probably feel on the hook. If I value the current company at €6m, so let’s say €2m as a rebate, they’d have to get €600k out of pocket to buy shares; If they buy only €100k because they don’t have the lumpsum, they’d get 1/36th of dividends. We’ve made 1m this year, that guy would get 20k. You see, it’s hard to estimate a company clearly. If they don’t get large dividends, they’d complain I had cheated them with a too high valuation. And programmers in France don’t have economy education in their curriculum, so they’d think I cheated them, rather than them not producing the proper output (people with no economic education tend to get angry at people around them when they take the wrong decision), - They’d leave the boat to work somewhere else as soon as the market shrinks, and they’d still get 1/6th of our dividends without working for us, which has a disproportional impact on those who stay, When you think about how to do your advice in practice, I don’t think it solves what you think it solves.
        nikanj 4y ago
        If all you offer is a pay cheque, don’t complain people only work for the pay cheque. I’m not telling you how to run your company, or offering any solutions. I’m just trying to offer some perspective.
        eastbound 4y ago
        You don’t transform people by giving them the power of deciding.
- dubswithus 4y ago
  > Resume-Based Development. Love this! Had not heard it before. I've also noticed a trend of coworkers wanting to add a lot more servers than we need for capacity and redundancy. As in they don't even look at New Relic. Reality is most of the bottleneck is database or the code needs to be refactored. Code written for a few thousand records is often not going to work when there are millions of records. Another argument is moving parts of the monolith to a microservice because that would take load off the server.
  - eastbound 4y ago
    > microservice At least it has become a running gag in our company that anyone suggesting microservices is joking. It’s a good first-step towards limiting Resume-Driven Development. For the scale of our cloud product (1000€/month for now), we could manage everything in memory.

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Resume-Based Development. My employees are the same. They want to tick all new tech boxes with our product, and they’re right, because they exit with 35% higher pay elsewhere (and I clearly don’t underpay them - this market seems to have no upward limit, and the only thing I’d like from them is taking ownership and responsibility, and it’s not happening).

nikanj 4y ago
Are you actually offering them ownership, i.e. large enough equity to have any say in corporate matters? Not just financial instruments that can lead to ownership after a years-long vesting schedule+exercising?
- eastbound 4y ago
  Will they perform better if I give them a million dollars for free?
  - nikanj 4y ago
    So your main complaint is: "People without ownership act without ownership"?
    - eastbound 4y ago
      The basic principle of ownership is: - You get $0 on day one, - After the job is done and it hits the market, you may get a million dollars. What employees want: - Be paid full market rate from day one even if it doesn’t work, - AND ALSO getting dividends if it works, It looks like you are just advocating to give them more more more. But let’s entertain the idea of implementing your advice seriously: - I’d have to hire entrepreneurs who understand how market moves and what the risks are, - I’d have to sell them stock on a given FMV that we determine together (Fair Market Value, =valuation per share), so FMV=0$ when the company starts, but it’s much higher when they join 5 years later when the product has already hit big and the good ideas are there. Estimating valuation is extremely hard and they would probably feel on the hook. If I value the current company at €6m, so let’s say €2m as a rebate, they’d have to get €600k out of pocket to buy shares; If they buy only €100k because they don’t have the lumpsum, they’d get 1/36th of dividends. We’ve made 1m this year, that guy would get 20k. You see, it’s hard to estimate a company clearly. If they don’t get large dividends, they’d complain I had cheated them with a too high valuation. And programmers in France don’t have economy education in their curriculum, so they’d think I cheated them, rather than them not producing the proper output (people with no economic education tend to get angry at people around them when they take the wrong decision), - They’d leave the boat to work somewhere else as soon as the market shrinks, and they’d still get 1/6th of our dividends without working for us, which has a disproportional impact on those who stay, When you think about how to do your advice in practice, I don’t think it solves what you think it solves.
      - nikanj 4y ago
        If all you offer is a pay cheque, don’t complain people only work for the pay cheque. I’m not telling you how to run your company, or offering any solutions. I’m just trying to offer some perspective.
        eastbound 4y ago
        You don’t transform people by giving them the power of deciding.
dubswithus 4y ago
> Resume-Based Development. Love this! Had not heard it before. I've also noticed a trend of coworkers wanting to add a lot more servers than we need for capacity and redundancy. As in they don't even look at New Relic. Reality is most of the bottleneck is database or the code needs to be refactored. Code written for a few thousand records is often not going to work when there are millions of records. Another argument is moving parts of the monolith to a microservice because that would take load off the server.
- eastbound 4y ago
  > microservice At least it has become a running gag in our company that anyone suggesting microservices is joking. It’s a good first-step towards limiting Resume-Driven Development. For the scale of our cloud product (1000€/month for now), we could manage everything in memory.