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I wanted to know what a Fipper was. I went to the website's hope page. It never told me what a flipper is. I walk away not knowing what a Flipper is. What a w

I wanted to know what a Fipper was. I went to the website's hope page. It never told me what a flipper is. I walk away not knowing what a Flipper is. What a waste of my time. Their website home page is a failure.

frodprefect 4y ago
What? Flipper Zero is a portable multi-tool for pentesters and geeks in a toy-like body. It loves hacking digital stuff, such as radio protocols, access control systems, hardware and more. It's fully open-source and customizable, so you can extend it in whatever way you like. Third line on the page.
- worik 4y ago
  If you know what it is already, maybe that helps. But I still only have a vague idea after reading that. It is hard to make an introductory explanation to someone with close to zero context of what you are talking about when you yourself know it very well.
  - zbrozek 4y ago
    I had also never heard of this device before and found that statement less than helpful. You don't learn what the device is until way down the page.
    - memorable 4y ago
      Agrred. I have no idea what the device is about until I do a quick Google search and visit their main page. The product looks promising but the explaination for what it is is poor.
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kej 4y ago
Blog entries are rarely good starting points for people new to the topic. Their main page gives a much better introduction: https://flipperzero.one/ https://flipperzero.one/
rtkwe 4y ago
This page? [0] Seems pretty extensive. IF you just clicked on the upper left Flipper image you're still in the blog page which isn't going to be the full sales pitch. The main page has their initial sales blurb: > "Flipper Zero is a portable multi-tool for pentesters and geeks in a toy-like body. It loves hacking digital stuff, such as radio protocols, access control systems, hardware and more. It's fully open-source and customizable, so you can extend it in whatever way you like." [0] https://flipperzero.one/ https://flipperzero.one/
- PeterisP 4y ago
  That's the point - the statement you quoted is very uninformative, and a strong example of bad, unclear communication. It literally does not say anything about what it is what it does, what capabilities it offers. That statement is essentially "It's a multitool for this target audience of users. It's really good for everything they want to do." - without giving any information about what that "everything" is. It does not provide an example use case - "hacking digital stuff such as radio protocols, access control systems, hardware" is not an use case but just an application domain, but an example use case would be some hint of how this tool would be actually applied to help someone do a security analysis of some radio protocol for an access control system. Why not say something roughly like "Flipper Zero is a portable multi-tool that includes transceivers for arbitrary interactions with most popular wireless systems - RFID, NFC, BluetoothLE, infrared and sub-1 Ghz wireless devices. It allows you to run custom exploit or analysis code for these protocols interactively from a convenient small hardware device." ? That would actually tell a potential radio hardware hacker about its capabilities and limitations; e.g. the original description could just as well be said about the hackRF SDR system, which is substantially different piece of hardware but aimed at a similar audience.
  - rtkwe 4y ago
    Luckily the main page continues on past that if you scroll down and tells you about the modules included and things that use the frequencies those modules speak.
    - 4y ago
nyadesu 4y ago
I had to go to kickstarter's project page to understand what it is

frodprefect 4y ago

What? Flipper Zero is a portable multi-tool for pentesters and geeks in a toy-like body. It loves hacking digital stuff, such as radio protocols, access control systems, hardware and more. It's fully open-source and customizable, so you can extend it in whatever way you like. Third line on the page.

worik 4y ago
If you know what it is already, maybe that helps. But I still only have a vague idea after reading that. It is hard to make an introductory explanation to someone with close to zero context of what you are talking about when you yourself know it very well.
- zbrozek 4y ago
  I had also never heard of this device before and found that statement less than helpful. You don't learn what the device is until way down the page.
  - memorable 4y ago
    Agrred. I have no idea what the device is about until I do a quick Google search and visit their main page. The product looks promising but the explaination for what it is is poor.
  - deleted 4y ago
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kej 4y ago

Blog entries are rarely good starting points for people new to the topic. Their main page gives a much better introduction: https://flipperzero.one/ https://flipperzero.one/

rtkwe 4y ago

This page? [0] Seems pretty extensive. IF you just clicked on the upper left Flipper image you're still in the blog page which isn't going to be the full sales pitch. The main page has their initial sales blurb: > "Flipper Zero is a portable multi-tool for pentesters and geeks in a toy-like body. It loves hacking digital stuff, such as radio protocols, access control systems, hardware and more. It's fully open-source and customizable, so you can extend it in whatever way you like." [0] https://flipperzero.one/ https://flipperzero.one/

PeterisP 4y ago
That's the point - the statement you quoted is very uninformative, and a strong example of bad, unclear communication. It literally does not say anything about what it is what it does, what capabilities it offers. That statement is essentially "It's a multitool for this target audience of users. It's really good for everything they want to do." - without giving any information about what that "everything" is. It does not provide an example use case - "hacking digital stuff such as radio protocols, access control systems, hardware" is not an use case but just an application domain, but an example use case would be some hint of how this tool would be actually applied to help someone do a security analysis of some radio protocol for an access control system. Why not say something roughly like "Flipper Zero is a portable multi-tool that includes transceivers for arbitrary interactions with most popular wireless systems - RFID, NFC, BluetoothLE, infrared and sub-1 Ghz wireless devices. It allows you to run custom exploit or analysis code for these protocols interactively from a convenient small hardware device." ? That would actually tell a potential radio hardware hacker about its capabilities and limitations; e.g. the original description could just as well be said about the hackRF SDR system, which is substantially different piece of hardware but aimed at a similar audience.
- rtkwe 4y ago
  Luckily the main page continues on past that if you scroll down and tells you about the modules included and things that use the frequencies those modules speak.
  - 4y ago

nyadesu 4y ago

I had to go to kickstarter's project page to understand what it is