What you've posted here is an excellent representative example of the form of social control in Norwegian society that I'm criticizing. It's a great contributio

What you've posted here is an excellent representative example of the form of social control in Norwegian society that I'm criticizing. It's a great contribution to the discussion. I sort of doubt we can find agreement, since we appear to have quite different views on what basis is required for the authorities to perform this kind of incredibly invasive use of force against a citizen that isn't even suspected of having broken a law. This is not suspicion in the legal sense -- it's a possibility or a worry. I'm not able to draw the conclusions you are from the part of the letter you've quoted. None of what is mentioned there is evidence -- she has publicly stated that she's been using certain illegal drugs on numerous occasions, that she's advocated for legal reform regarding drug use and that she is pregnant. She has declined seeing a publicly-provided doctor wrt. the pregnancy. None of this is an indication of drug use!! Related side note. If you ask other Europeans, e.g. someone from Germany, they might tell you that Norway's system of having regular, public-sector scheduled pregnancy inspections where declining will make alarms go off...is actually pretty creepy from a privacy perspective. At least that's what my left-voting German friends told me when they had kids a few years ago. Not that the service is a bad thing, but that declining or arranging your own is considered grounds for suspicion. There is a difference between the Norwegian (Scandinavian?) and Western mindset here that our discussion illustrates splendidly. Our society is in some ways more collectivist; there are numerous situations where the rights of the individual are put last which contrast quite markedly to other Western societies. And these rules are enforced with strict social penalties. The same contrast can be seen in the 13 (and counting) cases where the Norwegian Child Protective Services, supported by the Norwegian Supreme Court (and obviously the laws enacted in Parliament), have had rulings against them in the Human Rights court in Strasbourg.